Springer Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I have been shooting USPSA Limited for a few years and last year I started using the DAA Racer holster. Now, I have decided to start shooting Revolver and need a holster. I am looking at the DAA Race master with muzzle extension and the CR Speed WSM II. Any thoughts or recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Buy the insert for the DAA and my opinion is that you don't need the muzzle extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrow Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I also use the Race Master and come from Limited. After practicing with a couple different N frames I too did not feel like the extension is needed. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I also have the AA Racemaster. It works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The muzzle rest is not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springer Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Thanks for the advice. I just ordered a Race-Master, hope to have everything for next months match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackerBacker Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I did the same thing, switched from limited to revo. Started with the DAA race master and love the holster, just makes me nervous not being used to that type. I also bought the BladeTech Pro Series Speed Rig. Still working with both to figure out which one I will stick with. Best of luck to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Unless you're running a barrel longer than 5", just go with a kydex holster like the Blade-Tech. Just as fast, and far more secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springer Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Unless you're running a barrel longer than 5", just go with a kydex holster like the Blade-Tech. Just as fast, and far more secure. Mr. Carmoney, I wish I had received your post earlier as I already dropped the money on the DAA. By the way the 625 I just purchased from the classifieds was worked on by you and I want to let you know that it has the best trigger pull I have ever seen. My gunsmith, worked on many a USBP ppc revolver commented on how he was impressed with your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The DAA is just as secure or more due to the lock. You will not be disappointed with the holster. As for the Blade-Tech it is a fine holster and does work well it just doesn't have the locking mechanism. As for Mike's work cherish it as it is some of the best action work that is out there and being that Mike no longer takes work the 625 alone with his action work is something that makes the revolver special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Actually the only time I've dropped my revolver during a COF I was running the clock and literally running behind the competitor when my 627 hopped right out of my Bladetech kydex holster. Yeah, it could have used a little tightening of the tension screw but it wasn't some cut down gamey holster either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 What I like about the Blade Tech is it will fit about any N frame without changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Unless you're running a barrel longer than 5", just go with a kydex holster like the Blade-Tech. Just as fast, and far more secure.Mr. Carmoney, I wish I had received your post earlier as I already dropped the money on the DAA. By the way the 625 I just purchased from the classifieds was worked on by you and I want to let you know that it has the best trigger pull I have ever seen. My gunsmith, worked on many a USBP ppc revolver commented on how he was impressed with your work. Thanks! That is great to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevoWood123 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I currently have a CR Speed and am looking pretty hard at replacing it with a DAA racemaster. The lock on my CR Speed does not hold has well as I had hoped and it took a dive off my rig last match (unloaded, moving between bays, range bag bumped it). A couple of my buddies have the DAA and when the lock is set, it doesn't seem that gun can come out at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) I've been using a DAA racemaster for the past few years, I think it's a fantastic holster ( especially since they went to the magnetic insert ) Adjustment in every direction , excellent retention. The only " problem " with the holster only comes up on those rare occasions where you need to shoot prone / laying on your holster side. With a holster like a kydex blade tech there is no need to think twice about laying on it, where as the DAA Racemaster you need to put some thought in how to approach it. Edited October 29, 2015 by alecmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Does anybody truly believe a "race holster" is significantly faster than a plain kydex belt pouch? (And if you do, are you interested in making a wager?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Does anybody truly believe a "race holster" is significantly faster than a plain kydex belt pouch? (And if you do, are you interested in making a wager?) What is your definition of significant? .25? .10 ? .05 ? USPSA , kydex or race barely makes a difference. Steel challenge ? Sure - I'd rather use my race holster. Even if it's 0.10 faster, after 8 stages of steel challenge that's upwards of 3 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Nobody said faster just locks in better when not in use. The draw is in the hands of the beholder, whether it be a race holster or a kydex. Look at the draws from Bob Munden and that was from leather. Granted he had his hand on the revolver but I still don't think there is anyone who could beat him even if they had their hand on the revolver. Maybe not even holding it in their hand, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I have a Blade-Tech for my 625 and a Racemaster for my 327 and STI. The 327 is kind of a pain in the butt for holsters. I even molded my own and found that the shape of the gun itself can cause problems. It's only when you cut it down below the forcing cone that the draw cleans up appreciably. I dig Kydex because with a proper straight drop, for various USPSA starts, it's very adaptable. It doesn't bind up when torqued like the Racemaster (though I freely admit I hate cleaning the Racemaster). I dig the Racemaster because it is way more adjustable. I can position it however I want with a few set screws, which makes it ideal for Steel Challenge, which rewards draw speed massively and has the exact same surrender draw every single stage. Further, if I want to shoot a classifier with my 625 I just have to grab the gun and go. No changes to my belt. I dig Kydex because it's cheap. I dig the Racemaster because it's hot purple and makes me look like a baller. The speed aspect is really tiny and generally going to come in a distant third to how much money you've got and what guns you already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I did some pretty extensive testing with a CR Speed and Blade Tech DOH w/out the DOH but canted forward just about right with an adapter and cut the front down about halfway. I came up with at pure speed I had about .02 faster with the CR, the average came down to a bit more because I had more draws in the sub 1 second range with the CR. Think the average difference between the two was .05. But the Blade Tech was always there where I needed it, the CR felt like it was hanging out there. In USPSA just don't know that it's worth it. And I like the fact my single rig can handle my 4" M29 (Major backup), 5 1/4" 625 and the 5" 627 without changing anything. And all work perfect and are held secure. Especially when I have to run 3/4+ of a squad through a COF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamboo Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Anybody have any experience with the BladeTech Pro Series Speed holster? Looking at pictures from the Rev Nationals (last years?) it looks like at least a couple top folks are using that holster and a Safariland USPSA hanger kit to attach it to the belt. If it wasn't a Bladetech Pro Series holster it was one that was cut down and looked a lot like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Anybody have any experience with the BladeTech Pro Series Speed holster? Looking at pictures from the Rev Nationals (last years?) it looks like at least a couple top folks are using that holster and a Safariland USPSA hanger kit to attach it to the belt. If it wasn't a Bladetech Pro Series holster it was one that was cut down and looked a lot like it. The speed holster is just cut down to expose far more of the top of the gun to get out quicker. When I built my own Kydex holster, I cut it down about 2.5 inches from the forcing cone. It helps a bit, feels more pleasant, that kind of thing. If you dig a normal Blade-Tech you'll also dig the speed version. Just don't try to use it in Production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 If you lock it, the Racemaster is more secure than a kydex rig with the front cut out. If you forget to lock it, anything that lifts your revolver up about 1/2 inch will cause it to fall out.The Racemaster is nice because it doesn't need a muzzle rest so it accommodates barrels of varying length.I believe the biggest benefit to the race holsters is their adjustablity. I have a BOSS hanger on my single stack rig, and it is almost as adjustable as my racemaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrow Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) For me the race master wasn't purely about being faster than kydex or not. The idea of being modular was far more attractive. So for the belt rig I can keep the same holster for at least 5 guns. The moon clip racks have tech locks for easy swap. And the mag pouches I use for limited class, ss, club matches gssf, etc. This way I have one belt with modular nodules. The bonus was the race master's security and quickness. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Edited October 29, 2015 by woodrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Does anybody truly believe a "race holster" is significantly faster than a plain kydex belt pouch? (And if you do, are you interested in making a wager?) What is your definition of significant? .25? .10 ? .05 ? USPSA , kydex or race barely makes a difference. Steel challenge ? Sure - I'd rather use my race holster. Even if it's 0.10 faster, after 8 stages of steel challenge that's upwards of 3 seconds. Alec, have you ever actually timed the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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