Stician Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I have a Stock II Xtreme with the Eric 5.25mm (replaced the 5.5 with 5.25) Tall front sight, and at 25 meters it still prints low center. So I have to crank up the rear sight a lot. I'm not sure if it's the gun or shooting errors I'm thinking now of replacing the FS with a Dawson .120T or .110T What would be the best .120T or 110T? Or working on my shooting technique Another guy with a Stock II Xtreme with the 5.5mm Tall Eric FS has almost all the way cranked up his rear sight. So, is this typical for stock II's that they print low with the standard front sights? I'm using 5.5mm x 3mm. If I don't flinch before ignition it hits right above my front post and the rears aren't cranked high. Try shooting 6 rounds into a 2" dot at 7 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 So I'm going a different route. I fitted a CZ Tactical Sport fixed rear sight, and just got a Dawson front fiber to match. I like using the TS rear as a slide racker, and there is nothing to come loose or break on it, and it's cheaper than the Henning fixed rear. Its lighter that the stock rear by about a quarter of an ounce to boot! Question: I'm planning to install the Dawson front tonight. On previous Tanfoglios, years ago, I had to file a decent amount of the sight to get it to fit into the dovetail. Have you guys found on recently manufactured front sights from Dawson, that they take a lot of fitting, filing, sanding to install, or should I just be able to tap it in as it came from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboadway Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I've fit three, and only one required minor sanding on the bottom. The others were a nice, snug fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 My dawson front was actually pretty loose. I had to Loctite the set screw and sight down so it would stop coming loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yup, installed it last night. Turned out a few light taps with a plastic dead blow was all it took to seat it in the dovetail. It did shave off two very thin strands of steel on either side as it went in, but that didn't concern me too much. I filled the dovetail with the green loctite before the install, but forgot to put any loctite on the set screw itself, so we'll see how she holds... You guys think it is worth taking the sight back out cleaning up the loctite, and reapplying after putting some blue on the set screw threads? I'm honestly thinking it probably got a bit of the green on the threads as I was in stalling it. Lowered and raised the set screw a few times before snugging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankl03 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 The Dawson front sight went in easy for me. Just a couple taps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Are you guys buying the Dawson sights direct from Dawson? Or BSPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Direct. Dawson ships way faster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboadway Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The only thing that I don't like about the Dawson is that it's too tall. The OEM sight is 0.140" tall. The shortest Dawson is 0.160", so that makes you have to jack up the rear sight to zero it. That's why so many Stock IIs have the rear sight sticking up in the air. I've asked for a 0.140" X 0.100 sight. We'll see if they make it.....They now list the .140x.100 on their website! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I zeroed my S2 prior to buying a new front sight, and needed a .120" tall to keep the rear sight in a reasonable position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISIG Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The only thing that I don't like about the Dawson is that it's too tall. The OEM sight is 0.140" tall. The shortest Dawson is 0.160", so that makes you have to jack up the rear sight to zero it. That's why so many Stock IIs have the rear sight sticking up in the air. I've asked for a 0.140" X 0.100 sight. We'll see if they make it.....They now list the .140x.100 on their website! It's about time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercooler2 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 So I'm going a different route. I fitted a CZ Tactical Sport fixed rear sight, and just got a Dawson front fiber to match. I like using the TS rear as a slide racker, and there is nothing to come loose or break on it, and it's cheaper than the Henning fixed rear. Its lighter that the stock rear by about a quarter of an ounce to boot! Question: I'm planning to install the Dawson front tonight. On previous Tanfoglios, years ago, I had to file a decent amount of the sight to get it to fit into the dovetail. Have you guys found on recently manufactured front sights from Dawson, that they take a lot of fitting, filing, sanding to install, or should I just be able to tap it in as it came from them? Pictures, install details and where to purchase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Pictures, install details and where to purchase? It's just the rear sight from a CZ Tactical Sport. The are available from CZC and from CZ-USA, I got mine from CZC for ~$40 shipped. After shooting a test target I went with a 0.195" tall x 0.1" wide front sight from Dawson, and it seems to be shooting where I need it. The notch in the rear is pretty wide. If I were to do it again, I may consider going with a slightly wider front if it was available. Dawson would probably be willing to custom make it if you called, but I'm still happy with it as it is now! The TS rear sight does take a little bit of fitting but all you need is a triangle file and some patience... http://czcustom.com/cztacticalsportfixedrearsi.aspx Only picture I can find at the moment is before the front sight showed up, but at least you can see the rear: Edited October 27, 2015 by EngineerEli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechnology Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The only thing that I don't like about the Dawson is that it's too tall. The OEM sight is 0.140" tall. The shortest Dawson is 0.160", so that makes you have to jack up the rear sight to zero it. That's why so many Stock IIs have the rear sight sticking up in the air. I've asked for a 0.140" X 0.100 sight. We'll see if they make it.....They now list the .140x.100 on their website! I have the Dawson .140x.100 front on my SII currently; will have POA/POI info for 147 gr and possibly some 124 gr ammo after hitting the range tomorrow and this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagi Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Norbs007 was nice enough to ask Torogi to kindly to have Dave build the .140" x .100"... POI is perfect... Edited October 30, 2015 by Yagi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarkey Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Pictures, install details and where to purchase? It's just the rear sight from a CZ Tactical Sport. The are available from CZC and from CZ-USA, I got mine from CZC for ~$40 shipped. After shooting a test target I went with a 0.195" tall x 0.1" wide front sight from Dawson, and it seems to be shooting where I need it. The notch in the rear is pretty wide. If I were to do it again, I may consider going with a slightly wider front if it was available. Dawson would probably be willing to custom make it if you called, but I'm still happy with it as it is now! The TS rear sight does take a little bit of fitting but all you need is a triangle file and some patience... http://czcustom.com/cztacticalsportfixedrearsi.aspx Only picture I can find at the moment is before the front sight showed up, but at least you can see the rear: What kind of grips are those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 What kind of grips are those? Those are the full length plastic grips you can get for the large frame Witness Match guns. I cut them to length and stippled them. I could make a set available for sale if you're interested PM me... I explained everything here: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=212997&hl=grips#entry2473646 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronArcher Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Are you guys buying the Dawson sights direct from Dawson? Or BSPS? BSPS, Shipped within an hour of ordering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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