revoman Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I think Rob would have won even if he was shooting 38 short colt. Damm I should've bought a 38 super. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Rob was shooting a 627-4 38 super and was feeding it 9mm cases with a jacketed 158. In the end it doesn't really matter what you shoot, short colt, long colt, 9mm or super, the differences between them is too close to actually measure. You just need a gun/load combo that works, every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 You just need a gun/load combo that works, every time. thats the trick right there, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endurokids Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Absolutely true. I've owned some high strung bottom feeders that made life difficult at best. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 In my opinion I wouldn't obsess too much over getting the shortest case length possible. Plenty of top guys use " longer " cases, such as Specials, Long Colts , and Super brass. Pick something that works, and practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I use full length 38's. They group better for me out of my revo. I've done a couple sub-2 second reloads recently in dry fire. I can't change shooting positions that fast. The loss off accuracy I saw in my gun with the short brass wasn't worth the minor gains in speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 In my opinion I wouldn't obsess too much over getting the shortest case length possible. Plenty of top guys use " longer " cases, such as Specials, Long Colts , and Super brass. Pick something that works, and practice. wait wait wait. NOT obsess???? you cray??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I use full length 38's. They group better for me out of my revo. I've done a couple sub-2 second reloads recently in dry fire. I can't change shooting positions that fast. The loss off accuracy I saw in my gun with the short brass wasn't worth the minor gains in speed. My experience was the same, though I settled on long colts. When I was in the period where I was relentlessly practicing reloads, nickle starline 38's would reload for me just as fast as short colts(which I experimented with). In my case though, even with defacto known good SC loads, my guns would shoot laughably pathetic groups, like 5"+ at 25 yards from bags but with a 38 LC or special the groups were half the size. Because the focus was the IRC I couldn't live with a load that couldn't reliably hit an X much past about 20 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I was getting keyholes from every cylinder using 38 special cut to 38 super length. They did reload nicely, but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endurokids Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Very interesting info on caliber choices. I was convinced on the .38 short colt's, but now...? I'll experiment with them when I get the pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I think it depends on each revolver on how it shoots different loads and bullets. Off a bench at 50 yds I can keep all rounds in the Xring with my V-Comp and my 627 with a cut back cylinder and a true .356 barrel. All with 38 short colt. I would imagine I might do better with 38 special with the V-comp but to shrink the group and still keep them in the Xring as they do now I see know point. If 38 special or long colt gave a a greater advantage I would definitely jump all over it. My preference is the shorter cases for reloads but with practice one can become efficient with the longer cases. I had the pleasure of being squaded with Jerry M a couple of times at some of the first IRC's and believe me he can reload 38 special faster than a rattle snake. But I think he might have even switched to short colt. I don't know for sure on that. I guess what i am trying to say is figure out what shoots best out of your revolver and then it is all practice after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Just for the record--most 627s shoot perfectly fine with 38 short colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Just for the record--most 627s shoot perfectly fine with 38 short colts. Yeah, what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I would add, my gun that wouldn't group with short colt also tumbled lead 160's but shot the exact same coated 160 perfectly fine. Like the mike's say, most have no problems with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Instead of posting a new topic ill add to this one. I'm picking up a v-comp would the cr speed wsmII holster work for it? When I sold my 686 I sold one of those with it thinking it wouldnt fit an N frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endurokids Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Settled in with a Carmony worked S&W 625 JM from this forum to start with. It requires soft Federal primers, but I just realized that there are a couple to choose from. Which are the ones to use with soft striking pistols? 150, 150M, 155? Thanks again to all who responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) The 150 and 150M are interchangeable. The 150Ms are match primers, they are the same but more consistent. They all come off the same machine. We don't really need them in our game but they're often available because they cost a bit more. It'll cost you another $1.50 per match to run match primers. The 155s are magnum primers and may have slightly thicker, and less sensitive, cups. Edited May 31, 2015 by PatJones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Occasionally you will find the match primers, 100m sp or 150m lp, at the same price. I've never noticed any differences in accuracy or velocities though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endurokids Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Thanks, I finally found some 150M's and will load them up to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 would I be wrong in assuming federal 200m would work also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordfan485 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 the 200m are magnum primers. I believe they are harder than the regular primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Those are magnum primers, I don't know if Federal uses a thicker cup on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevoWood123 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I have found no issue between running the 100M and the 200M Federal primers. When the 100Ms weren't available for a small eternity, I was using 200Ms and had no issues with light strikes of any sort. That being said, I also regularly check my strain screws for any movement and use my wife's clear nail polish as a thread"holder" on it. It comes off easily with nail polish remover and can be reapplied after thorough cleaning. As far as guns go, I have been running a 686 SSR that I sent to TK for moonclip cuts and have been running it hard for a few years. Its pretty much always a two tone gun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I have found no issue between running the 100M and the 200M Federal primers. When the 100Ms weren't available for a small eternity, I was using 200Ms and had no issues with light strikes of any sort. That being said, I also regularly check my strain screws for any movement and use my wife's clear nail polish as a thread"holder" on it. It comes off easily with nail polish remover and can be reapplied after thorough cleaning. As far as guns go, I have been running a 686 SSR that I sent to TK for moonclip cuts and have been running it hard for a few years. Its pretty much always a two tone gun... Thanks for the info. I knew someone had to have tried them at some point. I ended up finding some regular federal sp so I didnt have to go the magnum primer route, But good to know it is an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 So where did this whole nail polish thing get started? Guys, you can buy Loctite at any auto parts or hardware store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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