spitboy Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Anyone have any experience with Win 231 for a 10MM load? I've always been a blue dot loader. But I'm running out? Any 10mm guys/gals out there shooting 231 in 10mm?? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmbaccolyte Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 You might try a top endish .40 S&W load from Hodgdon's reloading data website. You'll never get true 10mm performance from W231 powder because its too fast, but for practice or competition it should work fine. I don't know how much dirt, soot, etc. you'll have though. Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s, W-231 worked better than anything else that I tried in .45 ACP, but it sucked (was very dirty) in .38 Special and .357 Mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitboy Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 You might try a top endish .40 S&W load from Hodgdon's reloading data website. You'll never get true 10mm performance from W231 powder because its too fast, but for practice or competition it should work fine. I don't know how much dirt, soot, etc. you'll have though. Back in the late 1980s and early 1990s, W-231 worked better than anything else that I tried in .45 ACP, but it sucked (was very dirty) in .38 Special and .357 Mag. thanks...wish i could find more blue dot....someday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 What weight bullet? For 165gn jacketed and 231/HP38: almost no data. One manual--start 6.3gn and MAX 7.0gn. For 180gn jacketed and 231/HP38: start loads range from 5.1-5.9gn and MAX loads range from 5.8-6.7gn. For 200gn Jacketd and 231/HP38: start loads range from 4.6-5.6gn and MAX loads range from 5.6-6.5gn. I always start at the lowest start load I can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJE Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Any Power Pistol around? That would be much better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitboy Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 What weight bullet? For 165gn jacketed and 231/HP38: almost no data. One manual--start 6.3gn and MAX 7.0gn. For 180gn jacketed and 231/HP38: start loads range from 5.1-5.9gn and MAX loads range from 5.8-6.7gn. For 200gn Jacketd and 231/HP38: start loads range from 4.6-5.6gn and MAX loads range from 5.6-6.5gn. I always start at the lowest start load I can find. I'm running 155 montana gold...I just got a Thureon defense carbine in 10mm. Want to get that rockin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) 155gn jacketed bullet and 231/HP38: 6.5-7.0gn start, 7.3-7.7gn MAX. I always start at lowest starting load. Need a slower powder to "get it rockin." Edited March 27, 2015 by noylj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitboy Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 155gn jacketed bullet and 231/HP38: 6.5-7.0gn start, 7.3-7.7gn MAX. I always start at lowest starting load. Need a slower powder to "get it rockin." like blue dot? or what you recommend for a slow powder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Blue Dot, AA7, and AA9 are excellent choices (I find AA7 to produce about the same velocities in a handgun as AA9, but AA9 might be better for a longer barrel). Other options, if you can find load data, are LongShot, 2400, Enforcer, N110, 296/H110, and Li'l Gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitboy Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Blue Dot, AA7, and AA9 are excellent choices (I find AA7 to produce about the same velocities in a handgun as AA9, but AA9 might be better for a longer barrel). Other options, if you can find load data, are LongShot, 2400, Enforcer, N110, 296/H110, and Li'l Gun. I may be able to get some AA9...how well does it meter?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Halley Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 AA#7 meters like sand and can be a problem for Dillons. I had to get an oversized spacer to stop the leaks. After about 25 rounds I was losing functional motion in the powder assembly and was down a whole grain of charge weight. The powder had completely surrounded the powder bar and spacer and jammed up the works. The good people at Dillon took care of it at no charge. God Bless them! I loaded 200 rounds straight before getting bored of waiting for a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Anyone tried WIN 231 or Universal Clays with moly 155, 180, 0r 200g bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Win231 and HP38 suck, don't buy them, I cannot find it anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Win231 and HP38 suck, don't buy them, I cannot find it anywhere.I lucked out and found a jug. The guy only used a half a pound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzrider Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 i use 231 5gr. in my 45 for years, not beating my gun to death. Functions well and im just shooting paper. Same with my 10mm loads 180 gr. bullets. semi wad cutters lead. i know u can use alot of different loads of powder but this doesnt lead up my barrel as much. just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I loaded some Speer 180g CPFP with 4.8 of Win 244 @ 1.250 and they run right at 1030-1050 out of my 5.25 XDM. Nice accurate clean practice load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnappi Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I collect load data and have for dozens of years. Considering that the powder makers are VERY diligent about maintaining consistent burn rates over lot numbers, I can only assume that attorneys have influenced the publication of many of the more anemic loads published nowadays. IMO, collecting hard copy load data is a GREAT way of finding safe workable loads in your gun for your location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 231 works great for reduced-power loads in 10mm.. Shot a bunch of GSSF with that. Not where it's at for true 10mm power loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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