steel1212 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 There were three (Alex, Russell, and Flexmoney) Kyle don't count lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Shooter Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 There were 5 Open GMs and doesn't show as classifier for Open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 There were 5 Open GMs and doesn't show as classifier for Open. Yeah but the guy who won is some punk kid and the guy is second is just a part time GM lol No those guys are good enough that should have counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bockerSV Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Yeah that doesn't make much sense then. Maybe next month, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGJohnV Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Received my plaque. Thanks again for all of the hard work from the staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Don't you have to contact HQ for it to count as a classifier? Don't believe it happens automatically, no one at HQ looks through every level 2 and up to see who shot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bockerSV Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I'm not sure, kind of new at this. I'll rip an email off to HQ this week and see. I could use it, just got bumper to B class and I'm looking to spend as little amount of time there as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJE Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Don't you have to contact HQ for it to count as a classifier? Don't believe it happens automatically, no one at HQ looks through every level 2 and up to see who shot it. It has to be submitted to count as a classifier by the MD (which is always has in the past). HQ picks which divisions will and which won't... last year, Open and Limited both did, but Production didn't because there were only two GMs that shot in it. Edited June 15, 2015 by AJE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Don't you have to contact HQ for it to count as a classifier? Don't believe it happens automatically, no one at HQ looks through every level 2 and up to see who shot it. It has to be submitted to count as a classifier by the MD (which is always has in the past). HQ picks which divisions will and which won't... last year, Open and Limited both did, but Production didn't because there were only two GMs that shot in it. That is correct! The match must be initially submitted as a classifier when setting things up with HQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron410 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Hey guys, sorry for the naïveté but can I get a bit of clarification on what is meant by a 'classifier' match when it comes to level 2 matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKT1106 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 If there are enough GMs who shoot at a high level, as deemed by HQ, then your percentage in the overall results would be used as a percentage to calculate your classification. Let's say Bob Vogel, Nils Jonassan, and Travis Tomasie showed up and all were top 3 in Limited. Your percentage of what the winner shot would be used as a classifier score. If Vogel won and was 100% for the match and you got 59%, your 59% would be used in the monthly calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Or just vogel as in Indiana last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKT1106 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Some GMs are more equal than others, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Some GMs are more equal than others, I guess. This is correct. from the classifier booklet: Scores From Major Matches A shooter’s performance in larger matches and tournaments may also be used to help establish a classification. In order for overall scores from a Level II or Level III match to be entered as a classifier, the match director must submit an Application for Level II or Level III match with the “Results for Classification” check box marked. Please note that there is no guarantee that the overall results will be used. As a minimum requirement, the results and competitor list will be reviewed at the USPSA office to determine whether enough top shooters completed the match and performed at a level high enough to be considered a national standard. If the match is determined to have satisfied all of the requirements, the final score of the match may be entered as a classification score for each shooter. Each division is evaluated based on this criteria so it may be possible for scores from one division to be used while the other division is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bockerSV Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Thanks Sarge, oh well, just got bumped to B class and would like to spend as little time there as possible, would have been nice because I shot a decent A class score at the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron410 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Hey, thanks guys. Had heard some things regarding this a while back but it was all a bit fuzzy. I appreciate the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGJohnV Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 bocker, I know how you feel. I am 1.2% away from master class in limited. If this counts as a classifer I think I'm an M next month. Only 2 GM's shot though, so I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKT1106 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Sarge- That excerpt is why I posted the question about clarifying the process in the USPSA forums. It is vague at best, but I understand why it is worded that way. I just wonder if there shouldn't be a more specific detail, if ever so slight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 bocker, I know how you feel. I am 1.2% away from master class in limited. If this counts as a classifer I think I'm an M next month. Only 2 GM's shot though, so I don't know. Keep in mind though, even if ten GM's shot it and it was not registered as a classifier match it won't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 bocker, I know how you feel. I am 1.2% away from master class in limited. If this counts as a classifer I think I'm an M next month. Only 2 GM's shot though, so I don't know.Keep in mind though, even if ten GM's shot it and it was not registered as a classifier match it won't count.email Val or Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bockerSV Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 This is the response I got from HQ. Good afternoon Kevin, To have your scores count the best way is to have the club submit a correction with your USPSA number. We will usually catch it here when entering the scores but I would recommend having the club submit the correction. If there is anything else I can help you with please let me know. Thank you Heather Holeman USPSA/SCSA Membership Coordinator United States Practical Shooting Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMadWorld Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 I have an email in to USPSA regarding the match and having it count as a classifier. When I receive a response, I will post the decision here. Mads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bockerSV Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 There were 5 Open GMs and doesn't show as classifier for Open. Your performance in larger matches and tournaments may also be used to help establish classification. Placement in a major event with a score above your assigned class percentage may result in your being promoted to a higher class, even if your current average is lower. Winning first or second in class at an Area Championship or Major Tournament AND shooting into the next higher class may result in promotion (except to Grand Master); winning High Overall in an Area Championship may promote you to Grand Master class. In addition, if you score 95% or higher at a USPSA national championship, you will be immediately moved to Grand Master class for that division This match was a Level II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Adams Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Is there any information yet on a Buckeye Blast for 2016? Edited June 16, 2015 by Samuel Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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