Smitty79 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Every time I read another trigger job post or revolver rework post, people give the spring specs for all other primers and then tell what you can do if you only use Federal primers. Federal primers seem very hard to find. And when I can find them, they are more expensive than other name brands. Why aren't other primer manufacturers making softer primers? It seems like it would be easy for Winchester or CCI... to make a "Lite" primer. They could probably get an extra few cents per hundred to pay for their effort. I'd love to lighten my DA pull a bit more if I knew I had a reliable source of primers that would go bang. Edited December 21, 2014 by Smitty79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz41 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I would guess the number of people looking for soft primers is a very very small number of their sales market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Indeed Caz, it's easy to forget that USPSA shooters looking for soft primers (mainly Production and Revolver shooters) are a small subset of USPSA shooters who are already a tiny subset of the firearms market as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 I get that. But CCI, Winchester and Remington primers are all over the place. I haven't seen 1 available Federal primer since I started looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsons1480 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I get that. But CCI, Winchester and Remington primers are all over the place. I haven't seen 1 available Federal primer since I started looking. Here you go https://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=271&dir=278%7c284%7c317 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsons1480 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 And here http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=FA100&src=ppj&utm_source=pj&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=43737 And a little pricier, but here too http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Reloading/Reloading-Powders-Primers%7C/pc/104792580/c/104761080/sc/333152280/Federal174-Centerfire-Primers/739971.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Freloading-powder-primers-accessories%2F_%2FN-1109591%2F&WT.mc_id=ir92929&WT.tsrc=AFF&rid=10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Thanks all. Now I can mess with my revolver and a production gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 tl;dr: look harder If you have a DA/SA gun or a round gun, it's a fairly straightforward procedure to tune the mainspring to ignite whatever kind of primer you've got. If you can only swing Winchester, hey, you might wind up needing another half pound to pound on the trigger to get it to ignite reliably. You may also try stuff like bobbing or skeletonizing the hammer. As for other primer manufacturers, there are a couple of things that affect how easy it is to set off a primer. One of them is the cup itself and the other is the priming compound. It would take more than a little bit of doing to figure out something more sensitive, and on top of that, to market it. The demand just isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I understand finely tuned revised needing federal SPP to be 100% but there is no reason to set up a production gun that needs them. I had a very light setup in my 34 and now do in my XDM and both of them run on anything I stick in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAM Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 What is the difference in the Federal champion and Federal gold match primers? One softer than the other or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsons1480 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 What is the difference in the Federal champion and Federal gold match primers? One softer than the other or what? They're "made to more exacting tolerances." They're more expensive. That's the only tangible difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Smitty79, Move to Ohio, We've got LOTS of Federals here. Bought some recently ON SALE $23.95/1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 I lived in Cleveland a few decades ago. Gotta love that lake effect snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gennaro Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I'm not much for the cold weather either, but sometimes we get lucky over here with the powder and primer situation. Just hooked up the dogs to the sled and rode up to the corner and picked up some more Federal SRP's. You have to brush the snow off of them, but they work just fine. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeinctown Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Smitty79, Move to Ohio, We've got LOTS of Federals here. Bought some recently ON SALE $23.95/1000. Yup, though I really can't figure out why they have to make their boxes so big. I bought 4-5k of the CCI primers when they were on sale so when the Federals were on sale I only bought another 2-3k. Wish they had put their LPP on sale in addition to the SPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWord Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Smitty79, Move to Ohio, We've got LOTS of Federals here. Bought some recently ON SALE $23.95/1000. Yup, though I really can't figure out why they have to make their boxes so big. I bought 4-5k of the CCI primers when they were on sale so when the Federals were on sale I only bought another 2-3k. Wish they had put their LPP on sale in addition to the SPP. The reason the federal boxes are larger is due to UPS and their fire testing. Federals in their old packaging failed the test because they propagated, i.e. KFB. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 ...it's easy to forget that USPSA shooters looking for soft primers (mainly Production and Revolver shooters) are a small subset of USPSA shooters who are already a tiny subset of the firearms market as a whole. I've been running CCI Small Rifle Primers in my XDM and that's with the PowderRiverPrecision light trigger/striker spring. No issues at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I guess that further reinforces my point right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I guess that further reinforces my point right indeed it does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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