Craig N Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 My M&P is really good about auto forwarding if I do my part. When I don't do my part I use the over hand method. With my Glock, I use strong hand thumb just because it's right there at the slide release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wich1911 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I've heard it said that Option 1 is preferable from a reliability standpoint because the slide has more momentum by the time it reaches the next round to strip it from the mag, and also because grabbing the slide with the weak hand is a more gross motor skill than finding the mag release with a thumb. However, I run a 1911 and have never encountered the issue of the rounds being packed in the mag so tightly that the slide would not strip them when using the slide release. Is this ever a problem in high-cap mags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Not in my experience. Not sure which tactical ninjas have the authority to define gross motor skills. I can find the slide stop with my thumb (it's right below it) much easier than I can grab my little CZ slide quickly. My experience has been that type 1 is much more prone to error since some will follow the slide forward, robbing energy from the recoil spring and causing the next round to not chamber all of the way. Just pushing the button makes it more consistent and harder to screw up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcobean Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'm a lefty so options #2 and #3 aren't available to me. Using my left index finger to release the slide is an iffy proposition (even more so since I amputated the tip of that finger last year), so weak hand release is what I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannawas Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Put yourself on the timer and the answer will be self evident ... #2 assuming you use your strong hand thumb followed by #3 #1 is a distant third as mentioned my Alma ... What Nimitz said. I'm not very accomplished but I was wondering about the same thing a few months ago. Tried on a par timer and it wasn't even close on a P226. Number 2. I do think that this is probably gun dependent, hand size dependent, and handedness dependent. Give it a shot. You can do it at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackfatbob Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Strong thumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balmo Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Same here with my M&P. Slam the mags home and auto-forwarding is fastest. When I switched to single stack though, I see myself using #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Not in my experience. Not sure which tactical ninjas have the authority to define gross motor skills. I can find the slide stop with my thumb (it's right below it) much easier than I can grab my little CZ slide quickly. This The gross/fine motor skills argument is pure stupidity at work. Aiming a handgun and pressing the trigger so as not to disturb the aim are both fine motor skills that we are supposed to be able to perform no matter what. But hitting a big ass button that is right in line with one of your fingers is too complicated under stress? I don't think so. My SH thumb does not reach the slide release, so I hit it with my WH thumb at the same time as my WH is getting back to its proper place on the pistol. In terms of speed it's not even close with grabbing the slide FAR behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Same here with my M&P. Slam the mags home and auto-forwarding is fastest. When I switched to single stack though, I see myself using #1.Are you worried about bending your ejector when you reload a ss in slide lock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zjmccauley Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 strong side thumb, always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Same here with my M&P. Slam the mags home and auto-forwarding is fastest. When I switched to single stack though, I see myself using #1.Are you worried about bending your ejector when you reload a ss in slide lock? LOLWUT? 1911s do just fine being reloaded from slide lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Is that just with the long tube mags that you have issues? I was warned that the mags can slide all the way up, and bend the ejector. This was hearsay, and not first hand knowledge. I may have interpreted things wrong too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody6477 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 My strong thumb is pretty much right there (if it doesn't go back into battery by itself, which happens a good percentage of the time). Flicking it with my thumb doesn't seem like a more demanding motor skill than the (gross?) motor skill of going for the slide with my weak hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zjmccauley Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 strong hand release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsantini Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 For me the my weak hand thumb comes right into place as I re-grip the pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Breaks down to efficiency of movement, or sacrificing time because something might work better for you. I use a strong hand release, because unless the slide automatically goes home when you bump the fresh magazine into the well, your thumb is already in place, and the closest thing to get to it. Your weak hand can already be moving back to the grip while your strong hand thumb actuates the release. The amount of distance for your thumb from the magazine release to the slide lock lever is less than for your hand to move from the bottom of the magazine well to the release or over the top of the slide. The only reason I could see using the other options is if a person either doesn't have the hand strength or finger dexterity to do so. As far as the "tactical" guru's who argue that a shooter should go hand over slide, its been outdated since the 90's, along with the weaver stance... Turns out, if your to the point where you loose motor function in your hands that you cannot operate a slide lock lever, you also can't use the magazine release or pull the trigger... So the argument went out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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