Spiff2022 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 So the nearest club matches for 3 gun are once a month and 2 hours away, when I can get away from work, so I don't get to shoot a lot of them. So since I can't try my gear out very often, send me your opinions on my belt set up. Don't joke my home made shell caddies and load 2s, I'm only about $20 into the whole setup! The pistol mags go at 12 o'clock right under the belly button, the load 2s are in between the holster and pistol mags, which forces my holster to be just behind 3 o'clock, which I don't particularly like but it's not too bad. The dump pouch is directly at 6 o'clock, and the reset follows around. My shotgun holds 9 +1, so my plan with the caddies is to shoot until dry, grab the 4 and throw one in the chamber and load the 3, then load 6 from the other caddie. Any suggestions would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 What do you need a dump pouch for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPeel Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 What do you need a dump pouch for? Curious as well. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmt Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Get rid of the dump pouch and put whatever brand of quick release on your mag pouches/holster/shell carriers/etc. Attach whatever is needed per stage rather than everything all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The best belt for 3g is the Safariland Belt with ELS. There is good and bad with a dump bag. Some of the good: extra ammo container and a place to put mags if the weather conditions suck. Some of the bad - the dump bag can get heavy if toting lots of extra lead which can cause a severe case of plumbers crack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ok..... start with the belt and add pistol, you are right handed. If you are not going to change things out then you are going to need at least two pistol mag pouches on the belt and one rifle magazine pouch. Most of the time you will need 8-12 Sg rounds available. As far as shotgun goes; how are you going to load? If your doing load two then you will want that pouch a little more centered and on the right hand side if you flip the gun upside down with the stock on top of your right shoulder. If you are loading week hand then you can put the load 4's centered on your front and be able to bend forward. The load 6 will be a little long. Make sure that you are not crowding your pistol. put everything on, jump up and down, lay prone and kneeling etc and make sure nothing pokes you. If you must keep the dump pouch, put it directly behind you, you can use it for your mags when you are done with a stage. When you upgrade, think about a holster with retention. Another belt might be a good idea, I ran an uncle mikes with an inner belt and belt keepers for a while until I got an ELS. Kydex is going to work better than Molle stuff on a belt. If you are a smaller guy like me you will have less real-estate then some other guys out there so you will need a plan for a SG heavy stage, you will rarely ever need more than 2 rifle mags total or 3 pistol mags total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff2022 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 The dump pouch isn't really for a specific purpose, I've just found it useful more often than not. It sounds like everyone is saying "too much crap". So throw most of the shotgun stuff in my range bag until I get to a heavy shotgun stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Nothing that doesn't have a specific purpose should be on your belt. If you don't have a use in mind for an item, don't carry it around it is only going to get in the way. Think of it this way, your equipment is your race car. You don't hang fuzzy dice in your race car or leave a bag of sand in the trunk because you might think of a use for it later. Edited September 8, 2014 by Vlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Sterling...really??? The best???? Really???? We have had this discussion many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Sterling...really??? The best???? Really???? We have had this discussion many times. Perhaps he meant adaptable? The "Best" is what works best for your style / situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Well put my knowledgable friend, but the most adaptable on Friday can fall off on Saturday. Nothing beats TIED ON!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Doc Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I find the dump pouch very useful, I put there the pistol and or rifle mags that I'm going to use to make ready that way I don't use the ones on my belt also when I clear the rifle or hand gun I just dump the mags there at the end of the stage. It's a lot easier than trying to put a mag back in the belt pouches with the adrenaline still rushing, I see many shooters fumble mags when trying to clear their guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Thats what pockets are for, specially the cargo variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Well put my knowledgable friend, but the most adaptable on Friday can fall off on Saturday. Nothing beats TIED ON!!!!!! I don't tie my ELS belt on, but, I don't "buckle" in the back either. An extra CR Speed keeper, sewn onto the belt has made a world of difference in keeping the belt on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Sterling...really??? The best???? Really???? We have had this discussion many times. One of these days you might listen to me..... but until then carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobS761 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Sterling...really??? The best???? Really???? We have had this discussion many times. The best 3 gun belt is the one that doesn't pull my pants down while running. But maybe I need suspenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Nothing beats TIED ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kurt....really? Nothing beats it?????? Really??????????? We have had that conversation a number of times as well. Oh how ez this conversation free-falls.....parachutes are meant to be tied on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Oh snap!! Having stepped off the ramp, I can assure you that parachutes are buckled on tightly, not tied!...but I really ment tied on for 3-gun stuff, you see one year I forgot my belt but I had a nice long piece of sash cord in the tool box on the truck......nope nothing beats tied on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling White Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 There is another end to the paracord and it should be tied to the piece of fabric that creates a wing... just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradgsxr Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I run my ELS belt with the leather duty belt keepers that the LE guys use for their heavy duty belts, just a leather strap with double snaps, I run at least three of them and it keeps the outer belt secure to the inner and it isn't falling off that's for sure. Nothing as nice as being able to quickly change how your belt is configured or remove different caddies etc... as the stage requires. I was using buckled belts and tek loks and they are secure but once I tried the ELS I would never go back, you just have to make sure it is secure - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterrdy Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 ELS when you start resetting stages with nothing on your belt you will understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billdozer Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Bladetech tmms, or els both do pretty the same thing. I HATE the safariland els belts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Think of it this way, your equipment is your race car. You don't hang fuzzy dice in your race car or leave a bag of sand in the trunk because you might think of a use for it later. Out isn't a real race car without fuzzy dice. My uncle drag races a '55 Chevy. At one punt he added a bag of sand in front of the radiator to keep the front end down at the start. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulrick Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I just posted my setup in another thread... the ability to change your setup to fit stages is a must... Empty Setup for a typical stage using all three guns Pistol and shotgun stage with an oh sh*t weakhand caddy Shotgun only-replace my holster with a slug or buck IP 2.6 Close up on the IP 2.6 that is normally use for slug or buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 ELS when you start resetting stages with nothing on your belt you will understand. Why not just take the belt off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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