steviesterno Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Hey guys, In my always random quest for deals and good buys, I'm really thinking hard about building a no-frills 16" AR in 223. The problem is, I don't "need" it. I have an 18" game rifle, and a 10" SBR for HD, and a 5" 22 upper for S&G. Now I'm looking at a certain website that's offering nice looking full uppers including BCG and stuff for $350, free shipping. Seems too good to be true. Now the real question is, do I have any reason to get one? Other factors to consider... I can come up with $350 to blow, so that's easy. I have a lower and LPK, along with gift certificates to Bass Pro to get a stock set up. Also, the rear sight, so it would be up and running for literally $350. I was thinking it would make a decent truck gun. It should be the same length as the PG 500 I keep in there on the weekends, and much more useful. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amccallister Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 This is probably the wrong crowd if you're looking to get talked out of having more guns. Build that sucker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Go with midlength gas - softer shooting and more reliable at 16". My problem with building truck guns is I can't leave them alone... a $500 beater quickly evolves into a $1000+ safe queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDee Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The perfect number of rifles to own? N+1 of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 They do have a mid length gas system upper for only $10 more... although for only $400, I get a full railed upper or a YHM free float upper. But then I'd need sights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iswope Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Go with midlength gas - softer shooting and more reliable at 16". My problem with building truck guns is I can't leave them alone... a $500 beater quickly evolves into a $1000+ safe queen. You just described my life, unfortunately. I still scratch my head trying to figure out how I got a bone stock M4 cheapo into a race gun I don't use for anything. It's a sickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 I know it's a sickness. I started 3 gun with a DPMS AR, 16" carbine. The only remaining part on it is the front take down pin. Now it's a noveske, JP, Magpul, Nordic, Timminey, Trijicon race monster. was thinking it would be nice to have a cheap and easy AR for leaving in the truck or trips to the shady part of town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 and because I checked the spare parts pile, all I need is an upper. have the rest of the stuff laying around. I seem to remember BCGs going for $250 or so just the last scare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The perfect number of rifles to own? N+1 of course! N equating to never enough. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 right? Everytime someone asks me how many guns I want, the answer is "just one more"... I am at the point where I don't know how many I have without a head count. And does a lower count? What about that shotgun I got for decoration? Or one of the gutted frames just waiting for more parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter545 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Build that puppy and shoot it like you stole it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop414 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 If you know how many guns you have, you do not have enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacticalCOWBOY Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 If you know how many guns you have, you do not have enough. words to live by! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 16" ARs . and shorter, are just cool. Not the perfect match rifle, but sometimes cool just makes them more fun. I shoot a 16" gun with flip up irons in local matches, built around a used m4 barrel I bought for $75. a2 flash hider, carbine gas, flip up sights. Great little rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polymerfeelsweirdman Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) I am assuming you are looking at PSA they have or had in the past few days a rifle kit for like $409 you could be into a new ar15 for under $500 it is almost unbelievable makes me wonder how ak's are still even bought... especially arsenal ones... and especially especially 5.45x39 ones... Edited April 15, 2014 by polymerfeelsweirdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 yes, it's PSA. their deals seem too good to pass up right now, and they get great reviews from what I've seen. Slow to ship, but I'll wait a month to get awhile upper for what BCGs were going for about a year ago. Seems like you can never have too many rifles! worst case, I'll sell a moss berg 500 and this will take it's place. I seem to be switching more to carbines/ARs for go to guns anyway, with finally more time behind them than a pump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 oh, should it be a pistol instead? That would be more handy in the truck!Or is that just loud and crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledavatar Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 A no frills carbine is something you can use to test stuff, beat up, and just abuse the heck out of in training/practice. Throw in on the ground, throw it in the mud, bang it against cover, etc. Will you do that with your game gun or precision gun? And who knows, if you use it long enough you mind find it reliable and light enough to carry around when the zombie apocalypse comes, or rather, the most accessible, being it that it’s ready to go in your truck. So, of course you “need” it. What a stupid question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry weeks Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Put a light, 16" together for the truck and it shoots great, plus is easier to handle in tight spaces than my 3-gun with 18" barrel and comp. You'll be happy you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 I actually do abuse the heck out of my game gun. What's the point of having it? Not being stupid, but my fat ass has slammed it into a barricade, thrown it into buckets, shot a muddy rainy night match, all with no problems. I train with it as well. But you're right, a nice little carbine would be a good choice. who else is ordering with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 NO!!! the upper I wanted seems to be sold out!!!! Damn, the $400 upper does come with a $160 YHM quad rail. That worth the extra money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I use my 16" guns far more than I shoot my big $ 18" CTR-02s. You can never have to many guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarpenter82 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Wait.....whats a safe queen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarvinPilgrim Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 A 16" is a great tool to be able to throw into the truck when headed to the farm. Build it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I put together a 16" upper last winter mainly from spare parts and prize table pickings. The only thing I had to buy was a barrel. I didn't try to justify it much, beyond why the hell not and because I could... I did try and rationalize it from a HD standpoint that my wife can shoot an AR much more effectively than the 870 12 ga we also keep in the bedroom... but she saw right through me on that one and said "build it if you want". FWIW, she did like shooting it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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