Jaxshooter Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The salary paid it is definately more attractive to semi or retired individuals. It certainly is not enough money for the average person with a family. I would not have quit my job to receive $55,000 (or 3 times that) a year for 4 years with no guarantee of continued employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Maybe the Board should consider changing the bylaws. Perhaps the President should be selected by the Board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Doesn't being President involve moving to Washington state? That may slow down a lot of retirees from taking the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38SuperDub Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Doesn't being President involve moving to Washington state? That may slow down a lot of retirees from taking the position. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 After reading the by-laws, I'm not sure that I agree that the President's job is a full time position. 7.2 The President:The President shall be the chief executive officer of the corporation and shall be primarily responsible for the implementation of the policies of the Board of Directors. In addition to the other provisions of these bylaws, the President shalli.) have authority over the general management and operations of the corporation, subject only to the ultimate authority of the Board of Directors and these bylaws,ii.) preside at all corporate meetings and shall cast a vote in all roll call votes,iii.) appoint the Vice President and Secretary of the corporation, all such appointments subject to ratification by the Board of Directors, iv.) assign to all officers such duties and powers consistent with these bylaws to enable the President to carry out his responsibilities and obligations,v.) travel to the national office frequently enough to evaluate the performance of the Executive Director and report his assessment of the Executive Director, along with salary recommendations, to the Board of Directors at least annually,vi.) serve as, or designate, the Match Director of, and have full and final authority concerning the United States National Championships,vii.) represent the position of USPSA as determined by the Board, including following Board direction at all General Assembly meetings of the International Practical Shooting Confederation (IPSC) and serve as the IPSC United States Regional Director,viii.) serve as a Director and, except as otherwise provided in these bylaws, shall be an ex-officio member of all committees of the Board of Directors, andix.) perform all duties incident to the office of the President and such other duties as from time to time may be assigned by the Board of Directors or these bylaws.The President may sign and execute in the name of the corporation deeds, mortgages, bonds, checks, powers of attorney, contracts and/or other instruments, except as otherwise provided by the Board of Directors and by the Articles of Incorporation and these bylaws.The President may, with approval of the Board of Directors, establish and maintain an office separate from the national office convenient to the discharge of his duties. All expenses of this office shall be included in the annual budget submitted to the Board of Directors for approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 If the president can't dedicated 100% of his/her time to the full time job, then they shouldn't be doing it. The USPSA membership shouldn't endorse a situation where the president of the organization can't dedicate 100% of their time and focus to the organization. Its a full time job and needs to be treated as such. Then frankly it needs to be compensated as such -- and the current salary isn't paying for more than a half-time gig...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I've never considered it a full time job. Not at the salary we are paying. The ED absolutely but not the President. At least not on a weekly basis. I wouldn't say the President needs to be available 40 hours a week every week of the year. But there are times, lots of them, when the job requires more than 40 hours a week. It makes it difficult to coordinate with a normal kind of job. I know I couldn't do it and keep my current job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Fatboy Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 In the latest issue of Front Sight, Phil has stated that he will not be running for another term as USPSA President. When does his term end ? I wouldn't put a lot of stock in this. Voigt used to make this pronouncement every term and then run again anyway. Phil, is out after his term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Fatboy Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) I agree with you, but... Are you willing to quit your job for a $55k salary, and no guarantee that you will keep the job for more than 4 years? I have a feeling the caliber of person we want as a leader of our organization isn't going to give us 100% of his time for that pay. I agree with you on the salary, but he new that went he ran for the job. Edited January 1, 2014 by 02Fatboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYAOYAS Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Wow were do you guys live? Most skill trade people in Oklahoma don't make 28.64 a hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Fatboy Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Wow were do you guys live? Most skill trade people in Oklahoma don't make 28.64 a hour. In the right trade you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYAOYAS Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Right on Rick , you have put me in my place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 55K? Is related travel and lodging paid? Is there a per diem when traveling? Any perks? I believe some of the previous posts are correct. An older retired shooter, someone who has a track record working the sport, should seriously be considered. As well as being appointed using some criteria. I can think of 2 or 3 just in Ohio that would probably do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Wow were do you guys live? Most skill trade people in Oklahoma don't make 28.64 a hour. Being president of USPSA or a similar sized organization is a more demanding job than being a skilled trade person, imho. I don't think there's anything wrong with being a one-term president. It's definitely a personal sacrifice, and phil is taking his turn and doing a good job. I appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Doesn't being President involve moving to Washington state? That may slow down a lot of retirees from taking the position. No, but Executive Director DOES, as that person (Kim) works out of the USPSA office. It also pays significantly more. In the latest issue of Front Sight, Phil has stated that he will not be running for another term as USPSA President. When does his term end ? I wouldn't put a lot of stock in this. Voigt used to make this pronouncement every term and then run again anyway. Phil, is out after his term. Well... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Wow were do you guys live? Most skill trade people in Oklahoma don't make 28.64 a hour. I'm in PA -- where entry level RNs can make more than we are paying the USPSA President, and where families will need to make more than that to live a comfortable middle class life.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Just curious, does the USPSA President benefits package include health care and 401 contributions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpolans Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I've liked Phil Strader as Prez, but I miss the days of Dave Stanford and Andy Hollar. Guys who were devoted to USPSA/IPSC shooting, but didn't have all the distractions of being paid professional shooters competing for their time and attention. It'd be nice to have someone like that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beltjones Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Paying an executive/managerial position (even a part time one) $55K/year and expecting top performance is a serious threat to the continuity of the organization, in my opinion. Hopefully there are a couple of viable candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 We have a pretty strict "No Politics" policy here, and that includes USPSA politics. - CLOSED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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