jaffo Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I saw an opportunity to purchase a documented serial killers shotgun. Would that be a collectable or bad juju? Bad Karma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Amish 1 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Possibly a little of both. I'm not the collecting kind, so I can't tell you what makes a collector's heart jump for joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Depends on many factors. It will probably not go up in value and there may be legal factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hefta Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaffo Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 The firearm was stolen from someone that legally owned it. After the man was locked up and appeals exhausted it was returned from the legal owner. So No legal issues. I was just curious what people thought about owning a firearm that had that type of negativity attached to it??? Do any of you have other firearms that have bad feelings attached to them?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohuskers Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I have bad feelings towards all of my firearms - they miss everything I'm pointing them at. Seriously though I don't think there's a lot of market for a serial killer 'sgun or other macabre item unless its attached to a realy high-profile defendant/case and those would be extremely limited. Plus I think it's somewhat creepy to keep it for that reason. If it's just a matter of buying it for a good price and using it, that's cool, but otherwise it's just plain uncomfortable. It's kind of like Nazi memorabilia. I've studied WWII for years and read trial trancripts of the war crimes tribunals dealing with SS units, etc., but every time I see these patches, hats, flags, etc., which is interesting to me, the thought of actually owning it or having it in my house just repulses me. Just my opinion but yours may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Famous serial killer? Someone we might know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaffo Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 Famous serial killer? Someone we might know? I had never heard of him. Robert Hansen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Was the shotgun actually used in the killings? The article says he used a hunting knife and a Ruger Mini-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 It appears it was not used in a crime, based on the research I have done. I own several 100 plus year old guns, were they used in a crime? Probably based on the type of firearms they are. I still own them because they are neat guns. I believe an inanimate object is just that. People do bad things, not the objects they use. Ymmv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 If you could get it at a cheap price and it was in good condition, then why not? Not like the gun had any thoughts on where it gets used. But for the reason of just having a gun used by a serial killer, well then that'd be kind of strange don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmwater Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 It is not good or bad. I would buy such a gun to shoot with a clear conscience. I would not, however, have a clear conscience if I bought the gun and sold it at a premium BECAUSE a serial killer had owned it. I wouldn't judge anyone else by this standard but I wouldn't feel right about it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 It's kinda creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 It's kinda creepy. Completely creepy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Not sure I would get it to collect. Some guns would be worth a ton based on their dark past but would never be for sale. The St valantines guns, booths gun, oswalds rifle, pretty much any high profile gun used in a crime which wouldnt end up on the market. From a collectible standpoint, he wouldn't be high profile enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 If it were John Dillingers Tommy gun, I'd be all over it (though I probably couldn't afford it). A shotgun as you mentioned I would probably pass on as bad Ju-Ju. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmanfixit Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Quantum reality is weird. There is in fact an "uncertain" relationship between consciousness and the manifestation of physical reality. It's just an object, it has no consciousness that we can find. However, "attached" to it, there are those little "conceptual artifacts". Memes and Memetics are worth beating one's head on a bit. Personally, I'm a bit picky with the kinds of those sorts of things I allow to rattle around in my mind. I'd probably go with the "creepy" call myself. Darkness and chaos propagate themselves well enough without our help. Life and light are all that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvercorvette Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 It sounds to me like you are buying into the Brady bunch nonsense about guns being evil. Put the blame on the person pulling the trigger not the gun. I have Nazi guns that may have been used to kill someone and I own a USGI 1911. I own a part of history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaffo Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) Quantum reality is weird. There is in fact an "uncertain" relationship between consciousness and the manifestation of physical reality. It's just an object, it has no consciousness that we can find. However, "attached" to it, there are those little "conceptual artifacts". Memes and Memetics are worth beating one's head on a bit. Personally, I'm a bit picky with the kinds of those sorts of things I allow to rattle around in my mind. I'd probably go with the "creepy" call myself. Darkness and chaos propagate themselves well enough without our help. Life and light are all that matter. I couldn't agree more...though it's a bit odd of a response from someone with "Beattleguise" (beattle juice) for an Icon....lol Edited March 4, 2011 by jaffo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Juice? Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I don't think I could own a firearm like that. We all know the evil intent lies with the person pulling the trigger, not the gun itself. By the same token, you would own a tool used to kill a fellow man. I just couldn't bear the thought of owning that type of gun myself. Perhaps I am just being a little wussy, but it creeps me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I maybe a wuss, but I considered it a bit creepy that one of the guys I know uses as his carry gun a Glock 17 that he got really cheap. It came with two parallel lines scraped along the top of the front part of the slide: teeth marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmanfixit Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Quantum reality is weird. There is in fact an "uncertain" relationship between consciousness and the manifestation of physical reality. It's just an object, it has no consciousness that we can find. However, "attached" to it, there are those little "conceptual artifacts". Memes and Memetics are worth beating one's head on a bit. Personally, I'm a bit picky with the kinds of those sorts of things I allow to rattle around in my mind. I'd probably go with the "creepy" call myself. Darkness and chaos propagate themselves well enough without our help. Life and light are all that matter. I couldn't agree more...though it's a bit odd of a response from someone with "Beattleguise" (beattle juice) for an Icon....lol Yeah! It's true. All I can say is, spend 11 years in military medicine and see what happens to YOUR sense of humor!! Oh well! No Matter where you go.....There you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterready Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 It's just a firearm. It is the mind that destroys not the tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooterj Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 A friend of mine has a shotgun that was used by his grandfather to kill a chicken thief, many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaffo Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 Quantum reality is weird. There is in fact an "uncertain" relationship between consciousness and the manifestation of physical reality. It's just an object, it has no consciousness that we can find. However, "attached" to it, there are those little "conceptual artifacts". Memes and Memetics are worth beating one's head on a bit. Personally, I'm a bit picky with the kinds of those sorts of things I allow to rattle around in my mind. I'd probably go with the "creepy" call myself. Darkness and chaos propagate themselves well enough without our help. Life and light are all that matter. I couldn't agree more...though it's a bit odd of a response from someone with "Beattleguise" (beattle juice) for an Icon....lol Yeah! It's true. All I can say is, spend 11 years in military medicine and see what happens to YOUR sense of humor!! Oh well! No Matter where you go.....There you are! I understand...I did 5 of those years including a long trip to the sandbox!! Changes the way we think about everything. I stayed in medicine for an additional 8 years after I got back and then gave it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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