CRDB Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 With the new power factor of 105 I think IDPA should give the thumbs up for use of the 32H&R Mag and .327, what is more IDPA than running a J-frame (with 6 shots). Dean now we have a special needs division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strick Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Where did you see that SSR will be use 105 Pf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Me thinks you have been misinformed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRDB Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Should be posted on IDPA web site this week, I was informed this past weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strick Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Informed by who? Sorry but I really hate stuff like this, "I was told about an upcoming announcement so I will make the announcement myself but I can't say how I know". It just usually leads to bad or wrong information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBorland Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Sorry but I really hate stuff like this, "I was told about an upcoming announcement so I will make the announcement myself but I can't say how I know". It just usually leads to bad or wrong information. My read is that Dean's simply giving the heads-up to pay attention to a possible announcement from HQ later this week. I'll be watching for it. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) Wait a week or so, check IDPA.com, and enjoy! GOF Edited January 10, 2011 by GOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Oh man I can hear the bunny passing gas now. I need to give mine some chili I guess:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRDB Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 I was thinking about setting a load up to 108pf out of the 4" and then run the 2.5" 66 or 686 should put me (legal) at about an 80pf and have some 125pf loads for poppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Sorry but I really hate stuff like this, "I was told about an upcoming announcement so I will make the announcement myself but I can't say how I know". It just usually leads to bad or wrong information. My read is that Dean's simply giving the heads-up to pay attention to a possible announcement from HQ later this week. I'll be watching for it. Tom Is the PF of 105 about what a factory .38 Special load makes out of a 2.5 tube? Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jar Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I was thinking about setting a load up to 108pf out of the 4" and then run the 2.5" 66 or 686 should put me (legal) at about an 80pf and have some 125pf loads for poppers. If you do that in a match I'm running (run multiple ammo types so you can shoot a weaker load), I'll give serious consideration to giving you an FTDR. That said, IDPA has no popper calibration rule. I generally set them as light as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I was thinking about setting a load up to 108pf out of the 4" and then run the 2.5" 66 or 686 should put me (legal) at about an 80pf and have some 125pf loads for poppers. If you do that in a match I'm running (run multiple ammo types so you can shoot a weaker load), I'll give serious consideration to giving you an FTDR. That said, IDPA has no popper calibration rule. I generally set them as light as possible. He is allowed to do this according to the rules (if this 105 PF thing is true): Chronograph three (3) rounds at a distance of ten (10) feet using a gun of MAXIMUM barrel length for the DIVISION of the same gun type. As for loading dutch, what if he got a "hot one" that snuck through the press and just happened to come up while he was engaging the popper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strick Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 See, we don't even have any official announcement or actual verification that this is indeed the new rule and we have people getting threatened with FTDR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Facts? Really? What fun are facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 A FTDR would not only be inappropriate, but in direct contridiction with the Rule Book. If a competitor's load chronographs to the required PE it has met the requirements. There is nothing in the Rule Book that says he can't use a more powerful load at some point in the match if he so chooses. How is using a more powerful load than the Rules require a penalty? GOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRDB Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Merlin Orr, From what I understand and has been talked about for months is being able to run store purchased ammo and make power factor, most all factory .38spl does not make power in a 4" revolver (none +P). My first post was to ask the question, why not be able to run .32H&R Mag or .327 J-frame size guns, both make above the 105PF and one load in .327 makes major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) I personally think "this" is a major reason why the Powers that Be at HQ hate to make any equipment changes. Any change for any reason starts the "Well... if we can do This - Why can't we do This" 105 pf does make sense to me as having a PF that takes a handload to get to with a standard and common handgun seems kind of "Gamer Like" to me..... BTW... I think the JFrame in .327 is a Sweet little piece.... Edit to add.... Just think of the new threads we will have about "What is your SSR 105 pf load." The long dissertations on which 105 pf load has the least recoil and smells best.... Edited January 10, 2011 by Merlin Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 A 105 PF will be fun, but having shot a pile of 135 PF loads, I think I'll be loading for about 115. I don't want nervous sweats if poppers are involved, and I'm already comfortable at 135. It'll be interesting to see where this ultimately leads. But, I think IDPA HQ did a smart thing, because with this PF a shooter can walk into Wally World and find legal ammo. SSR shooters will no longer be required to be reloaders. That should bring in more SSR shooters. GOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I would think the reduced ejection stroke of a 2-1/2" wheelie would not be effective for IDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Off Topic: I shot mixed ammo at a major match not too long ago (180 and 145 PF)). When they collected my chrono ammo, I gave them some of each. They chrono'd both, and recorded the lower PF ammo as the official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I would think the reduced ejection stroke of a 2-1/2" wheelie would not be effective for IDPA. Good point. I have enough trouble with what I have to work with on the larger frame guns.... With that being said I have not tried a 2.5 yet so ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 The 2.5s are a pain if you get a sticky case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) If you load clean, tumbled, not on it's "death bed" brass, polish your chambers, and find a Safe Handling area to brush them every 35 rounds or so during a match, you shouldn't have a problem with sticky cases messing up your reload. Half of the reload, that few consider, is getting the six SSR rimmed (no moon clip) cases out of the gun before you can ram six new ones in. It kinda sucks to hit the ejector rod, grab a Comp III, bring it to the cylinder, and find a dangling case still in there. A dexterious pinky is then well advised. If you polish, scrub, and load clean brass, that shouldn't be a problem... even with a 2.5 inch barrel. Prior preparation.... GOF Edited January 10, 2011 by GOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 If this happens- clubs need to make sure we have calibration loads (ie revo) for steel. Are they keeping the classification times the same? Master here I come!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 If this happens- clubs need to make sure we have calibration loads (ie revo) for steel. Are they keeping the classification times the same? Master here I come!! It will suck as ours are all forward fallers. MD will steel must fall :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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