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Are any magwells legal in production class? this one does not add any length to the gun as you can see from the pictures. with a factory length mag inserted. I want to shoot it in production and for IDPA. Thanks B

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This is the only magwell that I know if that is legal in Production. I'm not sure if it's legal in IDPA. I dont shoot enough IDPA to be an expert but I would guess not since they don't like you to use anything that would make you faster while simulating defensive shooting.

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Not allowed in USPSA Production

sorry this this from the old rulebook

•No magwell attachments or external flaring of the

magwell. The lateral width of the well may not be

more than 1/4” wider than the lateral width of the

magazine.

This is from the new rulebook

22.4 Magwell opening The longitudinal (front-to-back) dimension of the

opening maybe more than 1/4” greater than the cor-

responding dimension of a magazine. External flaring

remains PROHIBITED.

I think that would be OK for IDPA ESP division

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Not allowed in USPSA Production

sorry this this from the old rulebook

•No magwell attachments or external flaring of the

magwell. The lateral width of the well may not be

more than 1/4” wider than the lateral width of the

magazine.

This is from the new rulebook

22.4 Magwell opening The longitudinal (front-to-back) dimension of the

opening maybe more than 1/4” greater than the cor-

responding dimension of a magazine. External flaring

remains PROHIBITED.

I think that would be OK for IDPA ESP division

so internal opening of the magwell is ok? as long as its less than 1/4" of an inch of the size of the magazine

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Not allowed in USPSA Production

sorry this this from the old rulebook

No magwell attachments or external flaring of the

magwell. The lateral width of the well may not be

more than 1/4 wider than the lateral width of the

magazine.

This is from the new rulebook

22.4 Magwell opening The longitudinal (front-to-back) dimension of the

opening maybe more than 1/4 greater than the cor-

responding dimension of a magazine. External flaring

remains PROHIBITED.

I think that would be OK for IDPA ESP division

so internal opening of the magwell is ok? as long as its less than 1/4" of an inch of the size of the magazine

THat's the way I understand it - i wonder if anyone's contacted John Amidon to get his interpretation?

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Are any magwells legal in production class? this one does not add any length to the gun as you can see from the pictures. with a factory length mag inserted. I want to shoot it in production and for IDPA. Thanks B

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Not allowed in USPSA Production

sorry this this from the old rulebook

•No magwell attachments or external flaring of the

magwell. The lateral width of the well may not be

more than 1/4” wider than the lateral width of the

magazine.

This is from the new rulebook

22.4 Magwell opening The longitudinal (front-to-back) dimension of the

opening maybe more than 1/4” greater than the cor-

responding dimension of a magazine. External flaring

remains PROHIBITED.

I think that would be OK for IDPA ESP division

so internal opening of the magwell is ok? as long as its less than 1/4" of an inch of the size of the magazine

THat's the way I understand it - i wonder if anyone's contacted John Amidon to get his interpretation?

That's not what I read...

22.4 Magwell opening The longitudinal (front-to-back) dimension of the

opening maybe more than 1/4” greater than the cor-

responding dimension of a magazine. External flaring

remains PROHIBITED.

I read that as it is now permissible to flare the mag opening internally even if it is greater than 1/4" more than the mag dimension.

No?

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That's not what I read...

22.4 Magwell opening The longitudinal (front-to-back) dimension of the

opening maybe more than 1/4” greater than the cor-

responding dimension of a magazine. External flaring

remains PROHIBITED.

I read that as it is now permissible to flare the mag opening internally even if it is greater than 1/4" more than the mag dimension.

No?

Read Appendix D4, item 21, and then scroll/flip all the way to the end of the appendix and read the special conditions. Can you find language that specifically permits the magwell modification you're thinking of? No -- then you might be skating on really thin ice.....

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The difference is that it's INTERNAL

Assuming that the IMSI guide rod is heavier than the stock guide rod, does the addition of your internal magwell still keep the gun within the weight limit for production as long as an stock Glock magazine is used? Is there still enough leeway in weight to use an aftermarket metal base pad?

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The difference is that it's INTERNAL

Assuming that the ISMI guide rod is heavier than the stock guide rod, does the addition of your internal magwell still keep the gun within the weight limit for production as long as an stock Glock magazine is used? Is there still enough leeway in weight to use an aftermarket metal base pad?

I have only shot this in one major match which was the 2009 Area 4 championship at DTR. I was running a tungsten full length T.H.E. Guide rod, ISMI spring, grip tape, and the internal magwell. I made weight but I don't recall by how much. The magwell actually doesn't add any weight. Mike at Accurate Iron simply removes some of the back wall of the magwell and smooths it into that gap to open it up more (which makes the trigger smoother;)). I would guess that it actually removes weight or at least doesn't change the original weight. I have run both tungsten guide rods and steel rods and have done reloads with this internal magwell and have doen reloads on guns without. I would pick the internal magwell over any extra oz of weight all day long. In production you do so many damn reloads it's very nice to have. I don't even notice the difference between a steel and tungsten guide rod which is why I have bought all steel for my other Glocks to save money.

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