robert-1195 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) I had been planning on buying a Dillon 650 in the next week or so, but saw a Hornady Lock and Load and now im not so sure. Can someone who has used or has both, let me know why one is better than the other, or is it just brand preference with these two machines because they are so close in performance? Edited November 22, 2010 by robert-1195 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lneel Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Both are solid, well engineered machines. I own both and IF I were to buy another it would come down to price. Right now the LnL is less expensive and caliber changes are definitely less expensive. I don't really think their is a huge difference in the overall performance. I do however like the Hornady's shell plate movement being a two step process using metal pawls and the primer system is much easier to deal with.... Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 LNeel is pretty spot on. I can crank out a few more rounds per hour on the Dillon. The LNL is easier to do things like just deprime and size or to just reseat bullets shorter and recrimp. I like the LNL powder measure better. I just ordered the LNL bullet feeder, and plan to locate it beween the two loaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyC Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I have the lock n load, and overall it great there would be some things I would change but it is good to go. I have broken parts (my fault) and the CS is unbelivieable, they shipped everything free, and I got the guy to through in a primer tube. I don't think you could go wrong with either press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert-1195 Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 Thanks for the replies by everyone. I just ordered a Lock N Load and cant wait to get it. I also plan on getting the shell feeder after the reloader is delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert-1195 Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 LNeel is pretty spot on. I can crank out a few more rounds per hour on the Dillon. The LNL is easier to do things like just deprime and size or to just reseat bullets shorter and recrimp. I like the LNL powder measure better. I just ordered the LNL bullet feeder, and plan to locate it beween the two loaders. Thanks for the info. When you get the bullet feeder up and running, please post some pics and info on how you like it. Im considring it also, but have only seen a video on you tube about it. Im curious to hear from someone who uses it alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GForceLizard Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Good luck with the LNL AP. I've had it for a little over a year. I'm loading 9mm, 40S&W and 45ACP. Mine needed some minor adjustments to the pawls after the first few months. The first shell plate spring didn't last long but the 2nd still looks like new. It probably gave it's life to wear some sharp edges down. Periodically clean the primer seater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Tompkins Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 ... I just ordered the LNL bullet feeder .... Where and what cost? I'm considering getting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARKAVELI Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 imma be an odd ball, Dillon all the way!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 ... I just ordered the LNL bullet feeder .... Where and what cost? I'm considering getting one. Grafs.com $243.00 I spoke to them and they expect them in first week of December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P. Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 (edited) Nobody in this business stands behind their product better than dillon. If it is a couple dollars more upfront, I can guarantee it is cheaper in the long haul and you can not beat the performance or support when you need it. To me it is not even a question, the answer is, and will always be dillon . P.s. Dillon does not sponsor me to speak highly of their product. I speak of it uncompensated from them. Edited November 24, 2010 by Matt P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-70181 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I have used both and bought the Hornady with a case feeder. I have had to make up some plastic tubes to get from the case feeder to the press. I load 9mm, 357, 45 ACP, and 44's currently. I would go with the Hornady if I had it to do all over again. I just like being able to use my old dies. The Hornady powder measure is top notch. Pretty much a matter of choice. I strongly suggest you try both as they are quite different in operation and are quite pricey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSWEAR Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I just like being able to use my old dies. You can use your old dies unless it's a sqaure deal B can't you? I have a 650 and a 550 and have used dies from Dillon, Lee, Hornady and RCBS. On some of the dies with shorter bodies you can put the lock ring on the botton of the tool head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan R. Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 650...all day long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert-1195 Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 (edited) ... I just ordered the LNL bullet feeder .... Where and what cost? I'm considering getting one. Grafs.com $243.00 I spoke to them and they expect them in first week of December. I just took a look at the Grafs website, and saw the rcbs case feeder for 299. is this a good price or standard? Edited November 25, 2010 by robert-1195 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM262 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I love my 650 and my SDB and Dillon service is second to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 my LNL has had easily 10K rounds loaded in under a year. Its been great, and anything Ive needed from Hornady theyve taken care of no questions asked. Even when I forced things that shouldnt have been and broke some parts. Im getting the casefeeder for Christmas, and after I see some reviews on the bullet feeder that'll be purchased in 9mm and .45acp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P. Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 my LNL has had easily 10K rounds loaded in under a year. Its been great, and anything Ive needed from Hornady theyve taken care of no questions asked. Even when I forced things that shouldnt have been and broke some parts. My dillon has easily over 10,000 rounds, .....last month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairtrigger Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I much prefer the shell retention spring Hornady uses VS those darn little buttons,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeg1005 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I have a LNL AP. I like it... it is the only press I have ever tried, other than watching my friend load on his 550. IDK what Dillon's customer service is like but it sounds the same as hornady's....Everything I ever needed they shipped no questions ask... I cut my retaining spring and broke the small primer feed due to stupidity.... I called hornady and told them ... "hey I broke this and I also need a new spring" "Where do you want it shipped, we'll get you a new one and I'll toss in a retaining spring pack for you." All free of charge... I can do 400 rounds an hour with mine.. this is including reloading the primer tube 4 times(I only have one at the moment) I use a powder cop die to make sure that I don't have double/under charges. MIke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControlTheGun Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I am very happy with my 650 but have only looked at the LNL. The Dillon seems to have a nicer fit and finish than the LNL, and customer service from both organizations is top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bello Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 imma be an odd ball, Dillon all the way!! I Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delray Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I started with a lnl and ended up with a 650. The only reason i switched is because of the peer support both online and locally. Both are good products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryflew Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 All things being equal to begin with like price etc which is cheaper for the add on items like feeders, other calibers etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 The LNL AP is a much simpler mouse trap. I am all about simple. Have owned many Dillon Progressives since 1979 and they are fantastic machines. But...see line one. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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