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Like tk2, I run 19# main's for reliablility. I can still tune a trigger to 2lbs using the 19#. Only reason to run lighter would be the other factors of the lighter main spring. Run a Hyperdrive FP, make sure it doesn't stick out the breach face while at rest. Skip the Heavy duty FP spring and just run a standard weight spring.

Pizza stone from Pampered Chef (wife sells it so I have a lot of it). Freschetta is good. Rising crust.

8.2.3 A course of fire must never require or allow a competitor to touch or hold a handgun, loading device or ammunition after the “Standby” command and before the “Start Signal” (except for unavoidable touching with the lower arms). Right, I knew that was in there. So to correct my quote: That ....... means you can't start a stage with a mag in your hand/teeth/behind ears (ever). Which is cool. I don't think that's the point of this discussion. There have been some good points in this thread. If the book states all mags must be stowed IAW (insert rule number).. and it does not specify division then in Limited and Open you still could not grab the mag off the table and run the course of fire with it in your weak hand. It was never stowed. Unless the table IS the approved storage location IAW WSB. Gary's point has been the table is the approved location and you can reload from the table till your hearts content, however you can NOT take a mag off the table and carry it with you to be reloaded at a later point in the course of fire. Here's where the grey area comes in. Iniating a reload, then re-shooting a target SHO with mag in weak hand VS. Grabbing a mag off table, shooting targets SHO with mag in weak hand. BOTH came from approved locations based on WSB. One is acceptable, the other is not. Why?

The mags have to originate from an approved location, whether it be table as per WSB or mag pouch/pocket behind the hip. I think we all agree on this right? That, to me, means you can't start a stage with a mag in your hand/teeth/behind ears (unless stated in WSB for some reason). Here's a scenario that has been (sort of) previously accepted: Instead of grabbing up three mags and storing them, you decide to "drop" them where you want them. By drop I mean that you THROW your mags to the locations you will want to reload them. It states in the rule book you may recover and use dropped mags. Is this ideal? To pick up dirty mags on the clock and attempt to load and shoot them? NO, absolutely not. Is it within the rules though? I don't believe these mag tossing, mag carrying methods will yield a stage win. IMHO, once the buzzer goes off the mags on the table are fair game. Grab em up and shoot, grab em up and store them, throw them all over the place. Don't care. If the WSB states that all mags are on the table that supersedes "stored in mag pouches". It will be interesting to see if this topic is revisted by NROI.

I made my own vest. No weights, it's just stiff material. I'm not into round dumping, but in the same token poking out and shooting one, slide lock reload, shoot one is just plain silly. I always try to find a spot to RWR if I can. If you have a steel target that activates a paper target (i.e. a swinger). Shoot paper target before it moves if possible. As long as you call the shot on steel, you have "activated" the paper, therefor you can shoot it even if it isn't moving. As long as the stage briefing doesn't say otherwise.

I use a thin cut off wheel and delicate care to notch the ejector. If someone where to try and drill it without knowing, the drill will walk and cut into the frame.

I have also drilled and tapped OTHER mag catches. If you haven't tried the EGW raised mag catch specifically, then you just can't imagine how freaking HARD these things are. See my avatar. 3 Hacksaw blades to cut through the hardened STI slide. That was pretty hard on the R scale but not even close to these. The EGW mag catches are unnecessarily hard. I've NEVER seen a match catch wear out. I've snapped a two flute carbide drill and 2 4-40 taps. Basically, these have to be drilled with the correct size end mill, not a drill bit. Or, chuck the drill bit and mag catch in a lathe and turn it slow. First the checkering has to be milled off of course. It would be fantastic if these were drill and tapped PRIOR to being heat treated. Or sell some that are NOT heat treated. Roy, if you can drill and tap them, buy 20. D/T them then sell them.

180gr Zero's over 3.8-4.0gr Universal Clays. Very soft.

We had a guy go open at a CLUB match because of the front pocket. Best I can tell that's when I started to see these posts. Badchild, that type of ruling actually makes sense. If the course is free style and you chose to shoot it with one hand while holding a mag in the other hand, your choice.

Good, then I've only done it in allowable divisions.

WSB stated ammo on table, the rule book lists that as a specific exception to "storage device". I'm still curios as to why you can't shoot a stage SHO while holding a mag. It came off the table. The next question is this only an issue for SS and Prod?

JAFO I agree. However it has been ruled otherwise. If, at ANYTIME, your gear does not meet apx D, then your in open.

We can not ignore this combinations of words, "During the course of fire, after the start signal..." If all mags have to come from retention devices or pockets IAW Appendix D1 item 12 during the course of fire, and the course of fire is deemed to start at "Make Ready" (re: Amidons Front Sight response of "at all times"), then walking up to the line with a magazine in hand and loading it after "Make Ready" puts you in Open. Does it not?

This is my thought too. With a small charge of a fast powder it's possible. I wouldn't think it likely from .75" difference in length but perhaps the powder is spent after only 3 inches. There is drag in both barrels, just more of it in the longer barrel. I first encountered something similar when switching from a 5" 2011 to a 6" 2011. Same ammo produced only 1pf increase in the 6 inch barrel. Everyone says longer barrels can run reduced powder to make the same power factor. Not so in my two barrels (same barrel manufacturer for both 5" and 6").

Scenario: Shooter engages a target, initiates reload by grabbing mag from pouch, decides that he/she didn't like one of the shots on the last target, engages target with one more round stong hand only while holding the soon to be reloaded mag. Mag came from mag pouch, but is now in weak hand during last shot. Is that OK? I've seen that happen before. This is a different scenario than picking up magazines from the table and holding them during the course of fire.

I think it was mentioned in the other thread but I was told by an Area director that NO you may not shoot a course of fire with a mag in your hand OR in your teeth. When you go to reload that mag, it came from in front of the hip bone. That info was relayed to him, then to us. He didn't make the call either. I think the hip bone has gotten it's 15 minutes of fame already. The arguement that the course of fire starts at "make ready" is the issue. If we can get clearification that the course of fire, i.e. when your gear must meet the rule book, starts at the buzzer then a lot of these discussions will be resolved. There is nothing gained or lost by having a barney mag (if unused during the course of fire) or your start mag in your front pocket while NOT shooting the course of fire. That means that if, while eating lunch, you run back to your car to grab one more mag and you slip it into your front pocket for the walk back the shooting area, you're open division? The answer is yes and I think it's silly.

You'll be more competitive in Production. I got into the sport in Production 5 years ago, went to other divisions, then for the past 6 months shot it again exclusively. It's a blast. Scored minor is a BIG reminder to get your A's. That training will carry over when you decide to shoot other divisions later.

I've done it. It still works (gun functions fine). It may also still eat his hand until he installs a better grip safety.

The spring with the new Gen5 strikers seems stronger too. I was having issues igniting RWS ammo, swapped to the Striker that AT borrowed and RWS lit off 100%. S&W told me the strikers are usually 10 bucks but they shipped one out to me free to replace the old black one. The new one also have a one piece spring cup/retainer vs the old Glock style two piece spring cups.

I wonder if my wife would enjoy Steel challenge. She thinks USPSA is silly, but steel is different. She's a heck of shot and can hit what she aims at. Hmm. Thanks for the posts. It's nice to see I'm not the only one.

I called S&W and explained that I have the old style and wanted the new style, they sent it.

I hadn't looked at Airtran. Looked at Allegiant since they advertise Lexington to Orlando for $79. They are the ones that hit you up for extras. Allegiant wants $39 for your first checked bag. I've flown with firearms on Delta for 10 years with no issues. 8lbs of ammo limit though. Still good info for those on the fence. We'll be flying into Orlando.

This match is my MUST ATTEND match of the year. Given the choice betweent this match and Nationals, I'll attend the ProAm everytime! Prize table is unreal. I love shooting all steel with par times. Nevermind the Pro's that show up to shoot this.. For those of you that are "too far" to drive: Ship your stuff and fly! Delta is nearly as cheap as Allegiant! Chris, that $99 flight is one way with no checked bags, Monday and Friday flights only. Then add the $9.99 seat fee and $15 premium boarding fee and it's right there with Delta. Fly with 4 people, share the rental, bunk up at least 2 per room. Current price I figured through Delta was $250 round trip per person. We can't drive to Tulsa and back for that.

Buds Guns shop has them on the shelf. Saw them yesterday.

I just threw up in my mouth a little