DKorn

So as long as you have the safety on before the trigger guard is inaccessible while holstering or before you remove your hand from the firearm on a table, you would not be DQ’d? This is how I would interpret it as well, but I’m not sure what you would point to in the rulebook during arbitration.

In the original scenario being discussed, nothing. In the rule itself, several things aren’t specified which could make certain scenarios unclear: -What are the definitions of “holstering” and “placing” a firearm? -When does holstering/placing begin and when does it end? -When in the process of holstering/placing does the rule apply? I.e, when do you actually get the penalty? For example, if you load your PCC but don’t put the safety on, and move it down towards the table it is specified to start on, but pull it back up to low ready before it touches the table and put the safety on, do you get a DQ? What about if the muzzled touches the table but the rest of the gun does not and you still have both hands on it? What if you only have one hand on it? What if it rests on the table but your hand(s) are still on it? Etc. Or, for a handgun, what if you move your gun towards your holster (after loading, safety off), but click the safety on before the muzzle enters the mouth of the holster? What about if the gun goes partway into the holster but isn’t fully holstered yet? Obviously, this is reading way too much into the rules, but any ambiguity opens up arguments from range lawyers on both sides of the timer.

Thats an interesting comment, because I see many 3 gun rule sets going the other way with this. Many of them have moved away from a DQ for a gun dumped with the safety off and made it either a “Stage DQ” (which doesn’t exist in USPSA) where you zero the stage, or a large penalty.

Great job with muzzle discipline, and great job by the RO for handling it properly. I made the mistake at the first major I RO’d of stopping someone when they fell. I saw him starting to go down hard, said “Stop!”, then watched him keep his muzzle in a safe direction without sweeping himself. After he stood back up I said “Unload and show clear... if clear, hammer down and holster... range is clear... I stopped you but you didn’t actually violate any rules. Would you like a reshoot?”

Doesnt matter whether the shooter was ready or not. It’s still a DQ as soon as the shooter lets go of the gun in an unsafe condition.

It should be a DQ. I think the rule that applies is 10.5.11.1.

I would say “don’t change your caffeine intake from your normal”. I shoot fine with 2-3 cups of coffee in me since that’s my normal morning routine. If I skipped the coffee, I’d probably be cranky and not able to focus for the first few stages. In fact, I’d say keeping your morning routine as normal as possible before a match is key. Don’t skip breakfast if you normally eat it, but don’t eat a huge breakfast if you normally don’t. Etc.

I agree as far as fully erect goes- if you’re standing pretty much upright in a normal shooting stance, I’m ok with some bend. Some examples of what I wouldn’t be ok with would be a significant lean to one side, to the point of being almost off balance, or crouching down for a low port.

In practice, there are matches in the US that run runder IPSC rules, but not very many. The only one that comes to mind is the US IPSC Nationals.

I really only recommend this for people who’ve never shot any practical shooting before. Let’s be honest, at least for their first few matches, they aren’t going to be competitive no matter what they shoot. Shooting Limited minor, even with stock mags, means less reloads and therefore simpler stage plans. Once they’re able to navigate a stage safely and (relatively) effectively - probably after only a few matches- they can switch to Production if they want or pursue a Limited Major setup. Or pick another division, now that they’ve been exposed to all the divisions at actual matches.

The last parts you mention don’t matter since this is for Limited division, so adding weight is allowed. If if I were the RO, my ruling would be - if it can be turned on in its present state, then it’s a flashlight. If not, then it isn’t. I’d probably even go as far as letting you just take the batteries out, but that’s more a question for whoever’s running chrono or the RM.

They make the regular PPQ (including the 5”) in .40, but not the Q5 so far. At least that’s what it looks like according to their website.

I’d say that’d be it’s primary use, but you could also use it in IDPA ESP (assuming it meets all the other criteria), or in Limited (either minor, or major if you can find a .40 conversion barrel- not sure if it even exists for the Q5/PPQ).

I’d say the “as long as you don’t turn it on” isn’t allowed within the rules since it’s says “Installed flashlights” and not “use of flashlights”. If you disable a flashlight so it can’t be used, is it still a flashlight? Does it depend on how disabled it is? Is taking the batteries out enough? What about removing a bulb? What if you completely strip out all the internals so its just a housing from a flashlight and then you add weight?

The rulings are also all in the USPSA app under the Rules section. I actually prefer that over the document I used to have that had all the rulings since this one is indisputably from an “official” source.

I believe so. “Freestyle” essentially means that you can shoot however you want as long as it’s within the other rules. The rulebook never actually defines “freestyle” shooting in the same way it does strong hand and weak hand only.

I’m not a fan of the GLS system (I’ve seen videos of people hooking the gun with a slung rifle and having the sling also disengage the GLS retention. I know that Red Hill Tactical has done some custom Open kydex holsters and also custom retention holsters, so I would reach out to them and see if they can help you out.

I’m not a big fan of how much of the magazine it wraps around though. I don’t think I’d be able to get my preferred grip on the mag. I also prefer some separation between my mags so that I can actually get a distinct grip on one mag at a time.

Is that a magazine of magazines? That’s kind of cool, although impractical.

Yes, provided it meets the distance and placement requirements.

I less often see people intentionally screwing up a classifier to sandbag than I see them intentionally zero a classifier that they think is going to lower their classification.

If you read 9.9.1, which uses the phrase “will always incur failure to shoot at and/or miss penalties”, it makes it sound like they use “incur” to mean, “be subject to if applicable” in order to contrast them with disappearing targets.

I agree completely that saying “regular start position” is a terrible WSB. So is “default start position”. I also think having a default start position is bad in the first place and only creates confusion. If you’re writing a WSB, you should include all the details of how you want the start position, and only leave something unstated if you want to leave it open-ended. If you’re running a stage, you shouldn’t have to worry about interpreting how much of the “default start position” from 8.2.2 applies. You should just be able to enforce what’s in the WSB and ignore pretty much everything else. Unfortunately, the rules don’t support that right now.

8.2.2 defines a start position for a stage if a start position isn’t specified. Honestly it’s a rule that usually causes more confusion than it solves.

It’s like when someone asks “How do you make practice more fun?” The correct answer is that you don’t. You decide to do it regardless of whether it’s fun or not because you know that it will benefit you and you have decided to do it in advance.