MikeBurgess

If I were going to put a Rhodesian wall in a stage or a port with a leaver or pull rope, or whatever that required 1 handed shooting, and I had to accommodate PCCs I would just add a low port or 2 or 3 that required being prone as an alternative, easy to do, legal and most likely everyone would find out that one handing a PCC is not a big deal.

I'm a hard disagree on this point, unfortunately the rules are written from that point of view.

At a class with JJ we worked on movement from 10-20 yards moving front to back and diagonal and 15yd side to side. the big take away from class was move when you can and shoot only when the sights say you can.

its powder/ load dependent and for steel not really a issue, I would probably load with something on the bulkier side and call it good. you would have to be running silly light loads to have a functional problem with powder position in the case, you may have a larger velocity spread than a full case load but for steel that should not be a issue.

For steel challenge the short colts are not necessary, if your set up for 38 spl or just want to buy factory. the short colt brass shines for doing reloads, but at a steel match those should be off the clock so no advantage to the short brass. that said I run one load for my 627s for USPSA,ICORE and Steel for simplicity sake.

Changing out a front sight is something any smith should be able to handle, anything more in depth competition wise will want to go to someone like TK that knows what to do to make a gamer gun. My experience through a friend is local smiths think a trigger job and cylinder chamfer means 9lb trigger and just breaking the edge on the cylinder holes.

mostly no because doing reloads on the clock pound nose bullets are your friend. if it was going to be a 100% steel challenge load then probably not a big deal, but with coated bullets my gun is more than accurate enough for the games we are playing, and the extra expense for and extra 1/2" at 25 yards is not worth it

Yes lots of Ms in SS Yes the classification system got messed up for a while and just generally doesn't work very well for any of the low participation divisions. That said I kinda felt bad at first about making GM in a "easy" division but when I look at how I did at Nationals and cross reference that % over to say Open Nationals I see many state and area level competitive GMs in about the same % (using shooters I know) so now I don't feel bad about it other than I cant shoot M class level with a bottom feeder

Just want to point out that while 8 shooters are very nice the 625 is not as non competitive as you might think, the only Major gun I saw managed a top 10 finish. and remember while there were way less Revo shooters at nationals than Single Stack there were more Revo GMs than SS GMs so the heat at the top was real

business expenses only act like a discount at your tax rate, it still costs you money. Spend $100 you can expense and not paying $40 in taxes on it means it still cost you $60

One other thing to keep in mind when looking at book loads vs your results is EVERY GUN IS DIFFERENT my wife and I both have 627s her gun averages 50+FPS slower than mine with 165 grain bullets from the same batch of ammo. Also I have fond that chronoing a revo is like chornoing 8 different guns as each chamber will run a little different speed

Thanks for the recommendations, now to see how quick it can get done. With Nationals 3 months out it may be time for a new 929 Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Any advice on where to send my 627 to repair a broken trigger stud? I would like to get it back both fixed right and inna reasonable time frame. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

That looks very flat, I would love to see it in 900fps super slow motion to see the movement in some detail. I did qualify my statement and you did go on to reinforce my main point, it just matters where it comes back to. In talking to a couple top 10 Open nationals shooters, and watching some slow-mo videos of Max, who's dots all leave the glass I have come to the conclusion that it it isn't that important for them it probably shouldn't be for me.

I have yet to see a slow motion video of a open gun where the dot could actually be staying in the glass through the full recoil cycle, I'm sure there is someone out there with monster arms that can do it but as a rule it doesn't happen. what IS important is that the dot is back where it started at the end of the recoil cycle. Chase the return don't worry about the rest

The list of variables is so long with infinite possible combinations, I think the best thing for 99.9% of shooters is to pick a gun that you like develop a load that makes power factor, adjust your recoil spring so it returns to where it came from and shoot the crap out of it. variables include but not limited to slide weight barrel + comp weight barrel length barrel holes comp design frame weight recoil spring main spring FPS shape hammer geometry cartridge (9/38) powder bullet weight. If you think anyone has scientifically tested all the above combinations and found the one best solution you are kidding yourself.

I disagree with the assertion that the division is dying, in my experience it is more popular now than any time I can remember, locally we get 1 to 6 shooters a month nationally there are enough shooters to make it a recognizable division, it was not that long ago when at any type of combined nationals there were less than 10 shooters total. At the local match level its a fine division, just look at your overall finish and grin at the fact that literally everyone you beat had gear better suited to the game. At the L2 and L3 match level, I admit it does suffer as there is rarely enough shooters for recognition at state an area matches. I have personally shot not shot an area match in revo for years because of the lack of competition (this will change in 2020). Nationals has been good the last several years, there are enough shooters that there is someone to compete with through most skill levels, and at the top we have the best revo shooters in the world pushing the pace. the biggest problem the division really has is there is no cheep way to try it out, to try revo is a $1500 commitment that most shooters are not willing to front to see if they like it, and most people that do have revos do not have ones that would make shooting a USPSA match anything but painful.

I think its actually closer to half that as the dot starts roughly centered in the lens. Doing the math on a slide ride (29mm high lens) that works out to 5.71" of rise on a 7yd target from centered dot to edge of glass. (based on 28" eye to lens)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Smith revolvers (and in truth most guns) should be bought with the expectation that you are buying a gun kit. the kit includes all the parts to make it work and it most likely will fire as purchased, but beyond that it is not ready for any type of competition. you have a choice to have it worked on by a reputable smith or do the work yourself but work it will need. a follow on to this is there are very few smiths in the country that you can send it to to get a competition tuning work done, yes your local smith will sell you a trigger job and cylinder chamfer but when you pick it up it is likely to have a 9lb trigger and the cylinder holes will have the sharp edge broken but not a real chamfer.

I have a feeling the BIG market for this is the more casual owners. I know several guys that would end up at my house with a box of parts if they ever fully stripped their 1911s this appears to make that much easier for them.

CO started out based on production division at the time production had massive participation numbers, CO started with 10 round mags like production and participation was next to nil, fast forward a year and the board changes the rules allowing high cap mags and other modifications and the divisions participation explodes. Your proposing SS optic, based on SS, a division with low participation numbers, based on what we saw with CO adding a optic would likely result in participation numbers that would be a fraction of the base divisions, so basically you end up with a division with participation numbers that may rival Revo if your lucky. You said you wanted to be competitive with your gun in the new division, as a Revo shooter I can tell you that not having anyone to be competitive with sucks.

so lets take SS one of the smallest divisions and then split it up so we can have 2 even smaller divisions? The idea of being competitive with the gun of your liking (in this case a 1911 with a optic) leaves out, that in order to be competitive you have to have competition. when CO started it was a 10 round division for the first year and participation was very low, that makes me ask the question where do you think the shooters for your new division would come from? Now if your question was really should we allow a SS with an optic in CO, as horribly non competitive as that would be, you might as well shoot it in open as the difference in placement would be pretty small.

I set up a Gold team for my wife last year and the bigest thing I found was run round nose bullets, either MG TMJs or a coated bullet with a good coating just get over not being able to run the same hollow points as the 2011 guys do (blue bullets work well in hers with no leading) For 170mm mags the Taylor Freelance extensions work great on factory 9mm mags, you have to load to reasonable lengths but it will run. I did make a new comp for her gun to eliminate the popple holes as she is pretty blast sensitive so her loads are right in line with my 2011 loads running a non ported barrel, running 9mm with the V12 barrel would just take some playing around to find a load that doesn't require silly high pressure to make major.

yes and no, the base gold team (hard chromed not black) is much less expensive than the xtreme version of the same gun, the extreme does come with a couple extra mags (these are not 140s or 170s so still need aftermarket bases) and it comes with some upgraded trigger components, a optic and grips . non of that justifies the extra $2k they want for them, as it has the same V12 barrel and comp as the lower cost version.

Revolver related?