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Another great match thanks, guys

Does anyone know how this 22lr side match works? Is it two man teams one with a rifle and one pistol or can they both shoot the same guns (both rifles or both pistols)? Is it only a team shoot or can it be shot individually?

Thanks Benny I thought that would be the case.

Couple questions for the shotgun experts. Does the Versa Max need to get the bolt lightened like the benelli or is it ready to go from the factory? Also does the hammer follow the bolt down if you outrun the gun like it does on the benelli? I’ve read that the trigger groups and stocks are interchangeable, is that true. Thanks, Ryan

It will be approved by the first of March they just forgot to tell us what year

now thats a good link thanks Triggerbender

I'm running a nordic tube with a DPMS barrel I cut down to 18" and turned down to .750 under the handguard I'm running a standard A2 stock now

I’m looking to cut some weight off my AR does anyone know what the weight difference is between a standard A2 stock and the Ace skeleton stock. Any other stock suggestions and weights would be appreciated. Thanks, Ryan

stock spring is 16lb

any updates how is the testing going

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The 9mm, 40 S&W, and 357 sig M&Ps all use the same extractor. If someone makes caliber specific extractors for the M&P please let me know because I’ve never seen one.

DLR worked for me today free shipping

PS I loved reading the write up on your avatar. Amazing what you can do with a hack saw. Thanks, Ryan

The biggest benefit of running a lighter spring is that when the gun returns to battery (the slide closes) the heavier the spring the harder the gun slams shut and pushes the nose of the gun down. When I ran 1911s I played with springs a lot. My favorite limited gun spring was a 9lb ISMI. I loved the way that spring felt but I could never get it to run reliably. Your recoil spring doesn’t just close the slide but it is responsible for feeding the next round into the gun. I found that the lightest spring I could run in my 1911s and still have good reliability was an ISMI 12.5lb spring. I admit the 9lb did feel better but if the gun was not perfectly clean or anything in it was just a little bit off it would jam and that was unacceptable to me. Now when we look at a striker fired gun we have an additional function that the recoil spring is responsible for and that is keeping the gun locked in battery (keeping the slide from opening when you pull the trigger). In a striker fired gun (M&P, Glock, XD, Ect) you have two springs working against each other. While the recoil spring is trying to keep the slide closed you have the striker spring pushing in the opposite direction trying to open the gun. This means that the recoil spring is responsible for closing the slide and keeping it closed, feeding the next round into the chamber, and overcoming the striker spring. I value reliability above just about anything else so I come down on the side of running a little heavier spring for the reasons I listed. If you are going to run a lighter spring you should really up your maintenance schedule because you are running on the edge of reliability. And if you are going to run a spring lighter then 13lb you really need to lighten your striker spring. Here lies the second problem for me. A striker fired gun totally relies on spring pressure to ignite the primer. There is no hammer momentum like you have in a 1911, CZ, Ect. This is why all the Glock guys say that if you run the reduced power striker spring you have to run Federal primers. This is because you have lowered your ignition reliably so they start using the softest/easiest to ignite primers. That alone should tell you how close to the edge you are concerning reliability. But in the end you have to decide what works best for you. While the lighter springs do feel better I do not believe the trade off in reliability is worth it. And even through they feel better my times were no different with light springs then they were with factory ones.

Hi Want2race Is there any chance you’d be willing to describe what you do to improve the Apex parts. I ran an M&P 40 pro in limited last year and will be doing the same this year. Right now I have the apex sear and firing pin stop in my guns but I’m always open to improving what I have. Thanks, Ryan

I’m doing the same thing that you want to do, setting up my 40 pro to be my do everything gun (for competition). Here is what my journey taught me. Sights Personal choice everyone has sights they like or don’t. Personally I love the Novak competition rear sight that comes on the pro so that’s what I run. Front sight I run a Dawson fiber optic again pick the width you like (I run a .115) and the height that fits your point of impact. Trigger You really have three choices in M&P triggers running it stock, installing Apex parts, or sending to a gunsmith for a trigger job. I always cleanup and polish the internals on my guns so I’m assuming you do the same with the above choices with the exception of sending it to a gunsmith because that’s what you’re paying him to do. Once you clean them up the stock parts aren’t bad but I wanted a better trigger. I’m currently running the Apex sear and striker block. With this setup my trigger is just over 3lbs (and that is with all factory springs) and I’m very happy with it. Now after saying that I’ve felt some of Dan Burwell’s trigger jobs and they are better. If I had it to do over knowing what I know now I would have Dan do my triggers especially since I shoot at the club he runs. I still don’t think my trigger is holding me back. Limited and Limited 10 When shooting these divisions I add a Sharp Shooter Supply limited brass magwell (5oz) (these magwells are not being produced now) and there 5” tungsten guide rod (1oz over stock spring set). I’m still playing with these so I’m not sure what I will finally settle on. These are the only changes I make to the gun and they take about 5 minutes to convert. Magazines Go to 44 mags. M&P magazines are $24.99 each best deal I know of. You will need base pads to run the magwell and get the rounds needed to compete in limited. The only choice right now in base pads (as far as I’m concerned) is Taylor Freelance. These give me 20 rounds in my magazines and all I do is cleanup the followers. I would love to see Dawson make there tool less basepads but after a year of asking still nothing. The TF pads are not bad they are just a pain to take apart and clean. When you’re shooting a match and drop then in sand, mud, ect you have to get out your Allen wrench and remove the screws to get them apart. This is not a deal breaker just a lot harder then the Dawson design (come on Dawson). Barrels Nothing run the stock one until someone comes out with a true gunsmith fit barrel. Drop in barrels are just as much of a crap shoot as the factory ones. Bar-Sto is supposed to be making one in conjunction with Apex but they are saying 6 months till Apex sees them. I’ve been pestering KKM for a year now and they are not even looking at them as of now (last email I was told later this year, same thing I was told last year). Springs and other parts I run grip tape on my guns and I’m considering applying permanent grit with epoxy. This again is personal choice. The stippling does not have enough grip for me but many other people like them. I run all stock springs on my guns. I run a stock striker spring to keep ignition reliability plus I don’t need to lighten my trigger weight. Because of the stock striker spring I don’t want to run a light recoil spring because the gun might unlock or not go fully into battery. I started having issues when I tried a 13lb spring. The stock spring is 16lb so I figure my time is better spent practicing. I think I covered most areas of concern but I’m sure I missed something so ask if you have any questions. I ran this gun in limited all of last year and will be using it in limited and production this year (if it ever makes the approved list). Still the best piece of advice I’ve read hear is pick one and practice.

I ran a 40 pro in limited all last year also The 40 pro was approved and legal for limited, limited 10, and open last year so neither of us were breaking any rules. Now production is a different story we are still waiting for the 40 pro to be approved and legal. This is just very silly to me the 9L, 9 pro, 40 pro, and 40 L are all basically the same guns with extremely small differences. When one of these were approved they should all be approved.

thanks bill I'm placing an order in a couple days so I'll let you know

Is there a shot show code this year? if not what are the latest codes Thanks, Ryan

When did WST become slow? I will not reload 40 major with it. I could not get to 170pf without separating case heads and that was at 1.200 oal Hodgdon does not list any load that will make major pf with WST If you are worried stick with book loads and slower powders like WSF