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I've had the pleasure of handling multiple scopes.....the closest to your budget would be a used Vortex 1-6. If you hit the lotto or your wealthy aunt/uncle passes away, the Leupy MK6 is pretty awesome as well.

Either will serve you well, but are different in pull/construction/... If you have someone around you with either/both, I would ask to check them out. I personally use the Taccom Double Deuces to quad load and do well with it, and also know several who use other offerings like AP and others who also do well. I have several friends with multiple brands of caddies who make due with them, so if noone around you has any to try, you could guinea pig them and see what you prefer...the one you do not prefer loading from quickly becomes your slug/buckshot caddie.

Single shot H&R .410

I prefer half day format because I hate sitting around for over 2 hours going from first shooter to last shooter, and talk to and hang out with my squad the entire time we are shooting anyways...I end up feeling like I need to warm back up to get ready for a stage after being "cold" so long. Half day format usually allows me to keep warm and ready for the next challenge, but does require stages to be a little closer together at times. Stages do need to be able to be shot/reset in roughly the same time frames, so unless your stages are all designed where they are being reset behind the shooter as the shooter progresses to keep overall shooters/hour rate the same, it would be a daunting task to pull off with 10 stages, and have big stages mixed in. Another downfall of half day format...we all like to squad with our friends of weekend warriors, or we all want on those 1-2 SUPER squads of fast shooters. The super squads will always be done early if everyone is resetting, the weekend warriors will always lag behind....especially if you have multiple grossly overweight or geriatric shooters on a squad.....not pointing any fingers, but guys over 300lbs or over 65 with multiple knee replacements aren't going to be bending down and picking up targets to reset as fast as someone hovering around 200lbs or in generally good health. Not knocking anyone there, but in order to make half day work with a match like yours, I would strongly consider squads made up with some intent and only allowing squadding requests by those who are sharing vehicles/equipment if possible. <----Another strong reason half day may not work well for this match, if you're breaking up bromance squads you are going to upset a lot of people who usually squad together as the only time they get to hang out over the course of a year. You have the resources there for some monster stages, which rocks, but also makes things a little more difficult to make half day format work. If you can make it work, make sure to leave plenty of extra time for travel, walk-thru, extra time for shooting/reset than what you think is required...and so on. I'd love to only have to take Friday off work to shoot 10 stages at your match before leaving midday Saturday and having someone walk the prize table for me...or leaving early Sunday morning after Fri/Sat shooting and late Saturday banquet/prize table like at Generation III Gun.

I am guessing that the first one was on stage 3, since had all the "option poppers".. It was a bad stage design. There was no option that included shooting any of those poppers as close to the popper as you could get it with a shotgun. If they calibrated with a shotgun as close as you can get to the target, then that is stupid. If he calibrated it with a shotgun at the dump barrel and it went over, then that would be acceptable. With all the option target ridiculousness the RM really should do the calibration with the gun that the competitor called for a calibration with (pistol or shotgun) because the majority of "option" targets are not an "option" at all. The RM at that match also refused to give a reshoot to a shooter on that same stage that had a paper target blow off the stand in the middle of his run... It is a hard job, but bad calls are bad calls. On the hearing protection thing.. the shooter was bone head, no reshoot was the right call. If I lose my ear pro, unless it is an all shotgun stage, I am going to stop right there and fix that problem.. I would rather hear my baby's first words than maybe win a stage.... Hear Pro molded me some plugs there....I doubt they will be falling out in a stage, or off like my electronic muffs have in the past. Just an option there.

Pretty sure you said you were volunteering to paint steel between shooters on that stage!

A moment of silence at the right time, followed by defiant exercise of our rights. I love it.

As it should.....as long as it's in the rule book, end of discussion.

If you are MD/RM and your RO stops a shooter because their hearing protection came off....because that shooter was trained in multiple disciplines and out of habit stopped the shooter. Do you give a reshoot, or does the shooter get their time plus all the FTE's/FTN's? If I'm the RO, and I've been briefed not to stop the shooter except for 180 violations, shooting targets too close with the wrong ammo,...but NOT to stop them when their hearing protection comes off, I will do as instructed as much as I can. If I do stop the shooter, IMO, they get a reshoot because I stopped their stage progress. As a competitor, you need to know the match you are visiting for these things as well. I know full well that if I attend a Horner match, it's all on me and if I drop a safe gun or ear pro on the ground the RO is likely to look at me and say "clocks runnin." This is an area where everyone's match booklet may get one paragraph thicker in the future.

The match was awesome. The Kraken and the slug gong on the lake were my favorite targets I've shot in 3-gun yet. Stage designs weren't overly simple, or overly complicated, but were fast and fun while being challenging. I watched multiple shooters walk past targets sitting out in the open because there was just enough to remember where you could forget something....I did this twice myself, once because I didn't pay close enough attention to the stage, and once due to losing count and not catching the target in the woods, and it hurt. The entertainment at the match hotel was excellent.....especially with Chad telling people not to mess with a group of military guys, cops, chiropractors,....wait, why exactly did you throw that last part in there Chad? Jesse shared fashion tips with me, and how the Spikecross shoes were not only more fashionable than Speedcross shoes, but may have helped some when I nearly flew over the rooftop prop on stage 8 when hitting it at a sprint. Only my superior athletic ability (read that as "dumb luck") and situational awareness (read that as "barely remember anything but the pain") kept my finger off the trigger, muzzle in a safe direction, and safely maintained position on the rooftop to finish the stage out. After Jesse's suggestions, I've ordered the following: Spikecross shoes and a corset. I'm not sure what the corset is for, but Jesse said it was essential. I love compliments, but suggesting next year's jersey should be light blue to better bring out my eyes was a little awkward Jesse! Chad refused to calibrate paper targets for me....not sure why he was being so stingy with his mouse fart calibration ammo that he usually shoots at matches, and "Really dude? Imma smack you" isn't what I expected from a retired guy. Becky and Dianna took some great pictures and have them on Facebook for any of you inclined to check them out. Go check them out...my favorite sorta makes me look like a sheepdog. The dump buckets worked great IMO.....and seemed very secure and not likely to tip over when being aggressive. Dump barrels were also vertical, which is how they should be IMO. The targets on the longer range stages were awesome, even when shooting Irons, and the guys calling hits were FAST at calling hits. IMO, all of the targets were the correct size for the gun being used, and there was a good mix of targets being used. There were no "option" targets, and honestly, I didn't miss them really. Paint was used often, and targets were consistently visible as long as mother nature played nice. The stages were VERY balanced in times and various types of difficulty, regardless of each stages round count. Balanced stages lead to a smoothly RUN match that seemed to be ahead of schedule all day Saturday, even in the early damp hours following rain. The prize table, especially for a first year match, was awesome. Hayes Customs put a beautiful 2011 out there, Black Rain Ordinance had LOTS of toys on the tables at the title sponsor, Brownells put a chunk of coin on the tables, and there were these jugs and containers all over the place that I am led to believe were filled with......POWDER. Not sure how many unicorns had to be slaughtered to get it for the prize table, but I'm ok with it. Thank you to all of the sponsors who kicked in this year, and I hope to see you all supporting this match next year with several of your friends' companies as well. For anyone looking for blackmail material on Chad Francis....I'll start the auction at $100....... JK......I'll give the material out for FREE. I do have a copy of the famous footage Chad mentioned, but for viewing only in person. Viewing may happen between stages at Fallen Brethren or 3GN Regional in Texas the following week.

Fixed it for ya. You have to look for the pre-ripped fish nets....ventilation!

Sign up and shoot. Watching is boring. But if you must anyone can come watch. Just bring eye and ear protection. When you're there find Jeremy Moore from The Shooters Source. He runs the monthly matches in the North a Texas area.http://www.northtexasmultigun.com/#2688 What Jesse said........watching is only fun for a couple stages before you wish you would have joined in the fun! There are plenty of threads about what minimum stuff is needed for 3-gun, but I would bet you could borrow a decent amount of stuff that you didn't have already. I don't know how many people I've loaned my shotgun out to...but pretty sure Benelli should be considering commission for 3-gunners by now. just a quick thing on etiquette...bring factory ammo (no +p stuff) if you are planning to borrow anything.

Fixed it for you.... iPhone failure

I have pictures..... Haha

My only complaints are how annoying and destructive fear boys can be, and Chad refusing to calibrate a few targets for me.

OMG, that info is like heaven!!!!! Awesome when things are well run!

Yes, but those who understand, and attempt to provide excellent customer service get pretty close. This ALWAYS makes the difference!

Thank you for single-handedly bringing "Failure To Do Right" to the sport of 3-Gun! you're welcome.

I typically shoot in plaid shorts, but with fall approaching and the Ozarks being known for it's tick and mosquito population I think I may break out some tacticool pants for the Generation III Gun match if they aren't too big. I haven't heard of any bad talk about attire, except Chad Francis gave me 10 seconds in procedurals for wearing white and lime green plaid shorts with canary yellow and orange shoes on his stage. I thought 5 seconds would have been sufficient! Next season, I'm considering stocking up on tacti-kilts and I'm hoping for lots of stages with stairs, ladders, and slightly downhill shooting while prone. Pretty sure the videos wont be allowed on youtube, but I'll email them to you all directly.

You have two completely different beasts......one with a longer/heavier barrel, and one with a shorter/lighter barrel. Have you considered a shorter/heavier barrel? I shot an 18" rifle with Rainier Ultramatch barrel all last year with a JP comp and it did sit still very nicely for quick double taps. This year, I have a 16" mid gas TI upper with ultra lite Taccom comp and 16.5" rifle gas TO upper with ultra lite Taccom comp. Both jumped more with shots until I tuned the comp, then had some lateral push until I indexed the comp. Both barrels are Voodoo Evo Ultralite barrels too, and barely weigh in the 7lb range with Vortex 1-6 on top. I thought they would be faster for 3GN bay style stages, and now I still think the slightly shorter barrel length lends itself some advantage there, but a heavier profile barrel would help a little with recoil and sight jump, while a lighter profile barrel may whip to the next target a little faster. So far....Fallen Brethren will be the only match this year where I think an 18" barrel and it's potentially increased velocity would help me over a 16" barrel. Now I wonder how a tuned rifle would be with with all the low mass inerds, but heavier (non-moving) parts in the stock, scope, grip, comp, barrel.... I honestly cannot say until I try it! When you look at who is at the top of the game.....there are tons who are shooting heavier 18" guns, but Taran seems to do fine with a lightweight gun too....sooooo, that whole practice thing may be spot on!

What he said

He does! The Noveske match last year was exceptional in design and admin.

I thought I was a fan of this method until I started to consider how someone who wouldn't take top 50 in TacOps could win 1 of 5 spots in Heavy Irons and the 4 other people who were 97% of his score would walk the prize table ahead of 2nd and 3rd place in TacOps who were 90-95% of someone like Greg Jordan or Daniel Horner.The only feasible way I see to make that work is to eliminate divisions and allow a set number of people in limited, Tac, and open. Then you have a bunch of people upset that they have no open gear or no magnified optic/irons gun and are forced into limited or open.

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