Loves2Shoot

we're talkin about a real pistol, right? Ooouuuccchhhhh Lynn, low blow. Jake, If you got dumped and didn't see it coming then it wasn't worth it. Hope it passes quickly.

No, you paid for my time reloading your mags

I can't do that exactly, but between a known A at 10 yards limited gun repeatable results, .25 +/- .03 splits and transitions (note: those split times will get you 100% score on the classifier also) hopers (C's, D's, Mikes) .14-.15 +/- .03. The time diference between a known A and a C or D or Mike is the same, it is reflex time, not a controled shot, not something I want to do.

Hands down, personal instruction. Don't forget the Barnhart Videos he has a lot of good stuff to say. Brian's book is a must have.

At 10 yards, down 3, with a skinny gun? OK do it

Just a thought, for what it's worth. In the winter here in Bend, OR we shoot steel plates IPSC style because of the weather issues and target costs. So, every spring (or like this year warm winter) there is a transistion time from shooting steel to shooting paper. I hear lots of people complain about steel during a COF (course of fire) and why they have such problems shooting steel. I have a hard time changing focus to shooting A's on a big IPSC targets during this transistion period. It generally takes me 5 or 6 practice sessions to reign things in, and it always frustrates me. This year I did it in one session, by focusing on prepping the trigger and shooting the center of the plates during the winter instead of just shooting the plate. This got me to thinking about why so many good shooters get stuck in the same classes. How many of you know people who've been in B/C class "forever" and they've shot for 10+ years? You can make M/GM with a 1.3 sec draw/reload and .25-.35 splits as long as you get all A's. Do the math on the classifiers and you'll see what I mean. I think that people have gotten so "obsessed" with trying to imitate what they see good shooters doing they don't take the time to actually learn how to shoot. I was on the verge of making Master before I actually learned how to shoot. I finally had the opportunity to take a class from a great, world renowned, instructor and he told me I did not know how to grip the gun, draw, reload, and my accuracy sucked. I spent a year re-leaning "how to shoot" then I found an "OLD" book by a guy named Brian Enos, I had of course seen the book in all the usuall places, but because of the picture on the cover being so old, thought it was probably out dated. After breaking down and buying the book I discover what shooting was really about. Technically I was pretty sound, but mentally I had a long way to go (probably still do.) So, why am I rambling on about my shooting progression? Because I know what it's like to not know how to shoot. I know the barriers to improvement. I know what it is like to shoot in D class. You can get away with a lot and go pretty far on a local/regional level. All targets should be shot the same, period. Close targets should not be "hosed" you should not "double tap" targets. You don't need to count on your "index" to hit a target on the draw in .xx (fill in the "cool" number, .6 and .8 seem to be popluar with posters.) Your draw speed on a target a hand distance is unimportant, move it to 10 yards or 15 yards, only A zone hits acceptable, to test your skill. 1 meter draws don't test skill, either do .xx (fill in the "cool" number) reloads. Reloads at 10 and 15 yards with A zone hits test skill. If you want to be the best you have to think of this as a game of accuracy and then speed. You can not afford "extra" shots, every shot has to count for as many points as are readily available for that shot. You have to be as perfect as you can be on every shot. No shot should be easy or hard in your mind. Different shots just take different amounts of time to execute. You don't have to have a perfect sight picture for each shot, you just have to know what type of sight picture each shot needs and take only that amount of sight picture to execute the shot. These are the things I wish I would have really understood as a shooter coming up. I spend most of my time these days trying to perfect the execution of these principles. All this to say, if you are having problems shooting steel, then you probably don't understand how to shoot paper. You have a small rectangle to shoot, even if you see a big 'ole target, you only have a little part to hit if you want to make the most out of pulling the trigger. If you look at it that way, steel plates and poppers are bigger to shoot than paper targets at the same distance. This game is so much more mental control than I could have ever guessed. DVC ~ Scott

TL, I thought that might be the case You credibility almost went out the window... ... or we were going to see you at matches with a big S on your shirt wearing a red cape.

Hang in there dude.

http://www.shootersconnection.com/ Chuck is a good guy and supports the sport. $45.50 for the belt there.

I've have the new JP drop in for a couple weeks now and it is nice

I've shot many tens of thousands of .40 rounds and never needed one.

...add lead bullets and you look like a locomotive.

After hearing Tightloop's 3.35 down 3 for a HF of 17.02 for 155% with a single stack who would dare post their time?

AMAZING!!!

What division? Open I assume.

Sorry if I missunderstood the question. I thought he asked how USPSA would deal with getting "bonus points" for doing something other than shooting. Sounds like a new sport in the making? A cross between IPSC and Most Exreme Ellimination Challenge (that show with the Japanese running up a hill getting hit by foam bolders, knocked off surf boards, and running into brick walls.) Now that shooting sport would make good TV, especailly with good comentators. As for as tasing people at the start of the stage, I wouldn't touch the liability of that one with a 10 foot pole. I would pay to watch it though, from a long distance. I wouldn't want a freshly tased peson handling a gun around me. How about caning? Give a 2 second per wack bonus?

Does the "gimick" add to the shooting experience/challenge? If not why do it? I'm up for shooting challenges, but getting bonus points for non-shooting challenges is just silly (had to pick the right word) in my opinion. It wouldn't be kosher in a USPSA approved match in my understanding of the rules.

www.shootersconnection.com ISMI section. Chuck is a good guy and supports the sport.

12-14 lb in a standard spring I run a light STI Recoilmaster ps. I run 170 PF

Why not simply move the steel back? Anybody here think shooting a 10" round plate at 20 to 35 yards inspires hosing? Steel is a good tool for learning. Just because we abuse the tool doesn't mean there's anything inherently wrong with it. Besides, who said we couldn't make A-zone size rectangles and hang those off the stand? I actually have two 5"x5" steel plates on both sides of a 5" x 14" rectangle on a stand that I use for IPSC practice. I was speaking about traditional steel challenge type plates that we shoot in the winter instead of IPSC targets, when I made my coments. Move those targets out far enough and you are right. Getting used to the clang part is what I really don't like about practicing on steel.

CR Speed covers the end of the gun, I like that, so it gets my vote. It fits every pistol I own also

Was that your shock buff? It's hard to tell from the pict, but those little pieces can't be good.

Steel is too big for IPSC practice, the A zone is much smaller than a plate. I always have a problem when we go from steel (winter) to paper for a few matches.

After big matches you can generally get some used brass from the people putting on the match for a fair price if they don't hoard it all themselves I still have 20 gallons of brass I need to sort through from the '03 Nationals...