Mountbkr Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I've read everything I could find but since you can't search anything with 2 digits, i.e. e3, could I bother everyone using e3 to post their load data here. .40 cal, 180 gr, 1.18 oal major PF is the target load. Thanks in advance....... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Use Google with a site-specific search. Copy and paste the following into Google: site:http://forums.brianenos.com e3 10mm/40 Replace 10mm/40 with another subforum title if you want a different caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 M, I don't load to 1.180", but here is my load anyway. Mixed brass, CCI 500, 3.6gr e3, 180 poly coated @ 1.126" OAL. 172PF. If I use a poly bullet coated with HiTek coating I have to go to 3.7gr to make the same 172PF. You will have to up the charge a tad when you go to 1.180", but not as much as you think since e3 is a fast powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountbkr Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Use Google with a site-specific search. Copy and paste the following into Google: site:http://forums.brianenos.com e3 10mm/40 Replace 10mm/40 with another subforum title if you want a different caliber. [emoji6] Hmm, didn't know you could do that, thanksSent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalJesus Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I'm running 4.0 e3, 1.180, gets me major. 3.7 gets me down in the minor area. I started at 3.5 and worked up when I did my load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 12 hours ago, Mountbkr said: Hmm, didn't know you could do that, thanks Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk ALWAYS more effective than a site's search engine. Just click into a thread to make sure you have root address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountbkr Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'm running 4.0 e3, 1.180, gets me major. 3.7 gets me down in the minor area. I started at 3.5 and worked up when I did my load. ThanksSent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Well my 8# of E3 arrives tomorrow for me to start making a load with it. I'm going to start at 4.0gr but I bet I end up around 4.2. 180gr plated bullet, 1.185" oal, 5" KKM barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I don't think you will need that much rowdy. KKM barrels are generally fast and you really only need 172PF. I used 3.6gr or 3.7gr e3 under 180s, depending on bullet for 172. OAL was 1.126" Barrel was my 5.1" CZ TS barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 i'll start lower down. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountbkr Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 With both STI and RIA barrels I'm at 4.2 for 172 ish PF, at 1.175 Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceyduce Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3.5gr e3 1.180 bayou 180 is 159 PF out of a Brazos 5". Soon as I get my Atlas I'll test that. I'm guessing we'll end up at 3.7gr for a 168-170. Very soft load. Like bit smokey. Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Alright, got a ladder of 3.6, 3.8 and 4.0 of E3 made up. 180g Berrys plated hollow point. 1.185" oal. Mixed brass. Winchester spp. Hitting the range to chrono in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Thirteen round string yielded two just below of and an average fps that was 166.5pf with 4.0 grains. Fourteen rounds of 4.10 again yielded two just below of and a fps average for 168.5pf. Just too close for me. Going with 4.20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1_Demon Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Rowdy - Thanks for the info. Appreciate it. So, sounds like your hot ticket is 4.2 and possibly above to be safe, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Yep, it looks like for my set up 4.20 is the amount of E3 I need to be sure I'm gonna make major with a decent confidence level. So far in this gun with the same bullet and other stuff the same I've needed 4.8 of WST, 4.4 of Titegroup or 4.20 of E3 to make major and not sweat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I can't believe you had to use so much e3. Fast powders must behave differently when the OAL is lengthened. With my 40 Open guns I don't have to add anywhere near 0.5gr more of Silhouette or WAC when I go from 1.126" to 1.180". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebg3 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 With Zero 180gr fmj's, at 1.185", I used 4.5 gr e3 to just make 170pf. This was with a rifle primer. 4.6grs was used if shooting a major match. All out of a 5" SV. Charge weights are similar to Clays and less than Titegroup to make same pf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
858 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, rowdyb said: Yep, it looks like for my set up 4.20 is the amount of E3 I need to be sure I'm gonna make major with a decent confidence level. So far in this gun with the same bullet and other stuff the same I've needed 4.8 of WST, 4.4 of Titegroup or 4.20 of E3 to make major and not sweat it. Just a shot in the dark But I assume a lot of the data posted here showing lower charge weights are with coated lead and shorter lengths. How consistent is that load? Edited October 14, 2017 by 858 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 My Major loads were very consistent. With 180gr lead TC bullets the SDs for three separate strings (10, 10 & 20) were 6.05, 6.17 ans 6.50 respectively. Using BBI 180 coated the SDs were 7.40, 7.48 and 7.95 (10, 10 & 20 shot strings). Falcoated bullets and Premier bullets were the same as BBI, give or take a few decimal places. OAL was 1.126". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 a 2nd trip with the chrono and confirmed powder drops reconfirms that 4.20 is my weight for E3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 6:17 PM, zzt said: I can't believe you had to use so much e3. Fast powders must behave differently when the OAL is lengthened. With my 40 Open guns I don't have to add anywhere near 0.5gr more of Silhouette or WAC when I go from 1.126" to 1.180". ZZT, it's the lead. They are larger in diameter and obturate better, letting less gas by, accelerating the pressure curve. It's normal for lead to need a few tenths less powder than plated or jacketed to get to the same velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Is anyone using this powder for 200gr bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, sandflea316 said: Is anyone using this powder for 200gr bullets? 3.8grs, 1.800 OAL Obviously start low and work up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 15 hours ago, jcc7x7 said: 3.8grs, 1.800 OAL Obviously start low and work up 10-4, that oal is gonna be a no go on my CZ TS orange. Gotta couple months before my Benny Hill 6" blaster is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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