Aircooled6racer Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hello: I searched around and was wondering if anyone was using a STI 2011 in 9mm with a Commander slide and bushing barrel for ESP? I think it would work great for most IDPA matches with quick draws and fast transitions. The bushing barrel would make it legal and a cut down magwell would make it fit the box. I am not sure if the 131mm mags would fit the box or I would have to use the 124/6mm mags. Let me know if you are using one and how you like it. I have the parts and know how to use the machines Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwx40x40 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I have an aluminum framed 4.15 STI. Although mine is a bull barrel (which I thought was IDPA legal on the shorter barreled guns). Anyway , you are correct . It is a sweet handling gun. Fast out of holster and 2" 25yd accrurate and runs 100%. A great combination. Even with the magwell , I can seat 126 length mags just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 Hello: I guess none of you guys are using one I guess it will be worth a try. Now I have to decide on sights. Target or not to target The 131mm mags don't look like they will fit the box. If anyone has some info on spring setups etc let me know. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Freeman Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 If and only if it will go to slide lock 100% of the time its a good choice. I use a STI 5.0 Tactical with a bushing barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigfla Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I have a nice one built on an SV frame and grip with a colt slide. I think the 126 mm mags are your best option. I have never used mine in a match however but always thought the same as you. Maybe I will break it out this year and give it a few runs. I shoot CDP 95% of the time but when I do go ESP it is usually with my 9mm Trojan or M&P pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Hello: I can get the slide to lock back since I can work on the mags Now I just have to find some cheap SVI mags. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I built one; it uses a standard (Gov) length but full width dust cover. I don’t remember where the mag well came from but it’s steel and fits in the box, I also run SV mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I actually built the pistol in this configuration first and decided I liked it so much I’d try an ESP version of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) Hello: That is what I am going to build for ESP in IDPA. Target sights and all I am going to use a Caspian slide and a Briley bushing barrel. I appreciate the pics. I think that is a SVI magwell. I cut down the sides of the STI magwells to fit the box. Thanks, Eric Edited January 8, 2010 by Aircooled6racer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I am going to use a Caspian slide and a Briley bushing barrel. I appreciate the pics. I think that is a SVI magwell. Thats a good idea the time it took me to get that Essex slide into shape was BS, it's ok now but I didn't "save" anything thats for sure. I went with a Scheuman classic barrel and I just checked it against a known SV mag well and thats what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Eric, As far as mag combination goes and SVI magwell and Dawson wedge pads on 126's works great. No problems seating and everything fits nicely in the box without having to mash down the rear sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I've never seen a trigger guard before dished out like that in the bottom middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 Craig: I still have my STI 2011 I built in 40 for IDPA and Limited. I played around with every type of base pads to fit the box. I ended up making my own so they would fit and also not move around. The Dawson's work well if you drill the hole in the bottom for the STI plastic keeper. I have had the Dawson base pad move and not been able to seat the mag. I should be starting the project soon Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 I've never seen a trigger guard before dished out like that in the bottom middle. I just did that so it would sink over my fat fingers I also sanded off all of the checkering before putting on the tape to reduce the OD of the grip a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 That pistols looks sweet!! Thanks for posting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Hello: I received the Briley barrel and bushing today. I have the front sight cut on the Caspian slide done so far. Now I have to fit the slide and frame and barrel. Hopefully I will be able to shoot it in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to shooting this pistol Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter32 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Does anyone know for sure is the STI Tactical 4.15 legal for ESP?? The way the rules read is a 4.25'' cone barrel is legal meaning no bushing . But the STI is a bull barrel instead of a cone right?? So what do you guys think?? I dont have one yet , but i want one to compete with if it is legal !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 A cone barrel and bull barrel are just different terms for the same thing. The way the rules read, anything 4.25" or longer must be a bushing barrel. So the 4.15" cone/bull barrel is quite legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter32 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) Thanks Duane .. Thats just to cool !! Now i need to round up some cash !!! Edited February 6, 2010 by Shooter32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Yer welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glshooter Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) A cone barrel and bull barrel are just different terms for the same thing. The way the rules read, anything 4.25" or longer must be a bushing barrel. So the 4.15" cone/bull barrel is quite legal. Better check on that, there was a thread over on the IDPA forum about the STI Ranger which was also advertised as a 4.15" barrel. It turned out it measures 4.15" to the end of the slide, not the barrel. The barrel extends past the slide and actually measured 4.29" and there was a question as to its legality. Not sure if the tactical would encounter the same problem. Either way you would have to remove the recoilmaster as that has definitely been ruled illegal. Edited February 6, 2010 by Glshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter32 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 That is a good point that i never thought about , but that is getting awfull picky !! As far as the recoil master that's not a problem i could change that . The other thing i worried about was the dust cover?? It looks to be out to the end of the slide , dont know if it matters on the shorter slide . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter32 Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Does anyone have a thought on the dust cover issue?? I am looking real hard at one of these and need to be sure i can shoot it in ESP before i purchase . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Does anyone have a thought on the dust cover issue?? I am looking real hard at one of these and need to be sure i can shoot it in ESP before i purchase . IMO, you should email info@idpa.com and ask them. That is a fairly large investment, so you will know for sure. A.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 From the IDPA Rule Book under EXCLUDED Modifications (NON-Inclusive list) for ESP we find: 1. Full length dust covers of carbon or stainless steel. That's pretty straightforward. You can't have a steel full-length dust cover in ESP. A standard short steel dust cover, yes. A full-length polymer dust cover, yes. A full-length steel dust cover, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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