Beretta Lover Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 last year at the Benning 3 gun I was running remington deer slayer slugs (I got them for like .50 eacha couple years ago_) anyway they kick fairly decently and when I ran this ammo my bolt/ carier woul go to the rear and lock back. I polished the internals of my carrier assembly and greased them and with hot ammo the gun still locks the carrier/bolt back. I think I need to replace the carrier spring, is this right? PS the gun runs fine with birdshot and milder slugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I am going to move this over to the 3-gun area and see if it gets some more eyeballs. - Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 UNPOSSIBLE - spaghetti guns never malfunction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Don't know. I have run them thru my guns with no prob, but I do normally run the low recoil stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) UNPOSSIBLE - spaghetti guns never malfunction Everything mechanical is subject to failure! To be honest, the reason I shoot a Benelli, is, it's easier to load than my Winchester Super X........Model 1. Edited July 31, 2009 by Dan Sierpina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Is the bolt locked back? or, is the shell catching going into the chamber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta Lover Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 I am going to move this over to the 3-gun area and see if it gets some more eyeballs. - Admin. thanks Flex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 (edited) Man I am sooo sick of Benelli questions. This is the 4th one this year!!! Couple if things going on here, a mag spring a bit on the weak side, a bit of a sharp edge on the carrier dog, and .....maybe a weak carrier spring! The BEST lifter mod...(out side of welding it up to prevent Benelli thumb ) is to bevel the inside back of the "slot" with a round file. This simple little thing can help a marginal mag spring work, and sure helps full power stuff cycle ( first time I posted this little tid-bit so take heed). Lightly breaking the edge of the seconed step down on the carrier dog also helps this whole thing, and a GOOD mag spring works good too! Edited August 1, 2009 by kurtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 last year at the Benning 3 gun PS the gun runs fine with birdshot and milder slugs Stick with those. Use the high power stuff at practice time. Learned some time ago never use different/unproven ammo at a big match..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomMcC Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 (edited) Kurt I don't see the term "carrier dog" used in my Benelli manual, could you explain what it is? When you say file the rear inside of the slot, you are referring to the lifter slot, right? In the manual I think they refer to the lifter as the "carrier". Tom Edited August 1, 2009 by TomMcC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 AHHH...what,s in a name?? the carrier dog is the little thingy that sticks up on the left hand side of the trigger group that makes the "carrier" lift...looks kind of like a "dog ear". Lifter slot?? I can only see one slot when I look at the underside of a Benelli so yea, lifter slot/carrrier slot. Look at the under side of the flapper/carrier/lifter/and then take it out and bevel the INSIDE of the back of the lifter/carrier/flapper do hicky with a file. Kind of like where a shell might go when released from the mag tube as it slides back along the SLOT/ releif cut/ straight line guidence cut/ etc. By the by... the thingy that carries the shells up to the chamber is the carrier, AKA.... lifter, flaper thingy, Benelli thumb cutter...etc. Benlli calls all this stuff by vastly different names, so I am doing my best KurtM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomMcC Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 AHHH...what,s in a name?? the carrier dog is the little thingy that sticks up on the left hand side of the trigger group that makes the "carrier" lift...looks kind of like a "dog ear". Lifter slot?? I can only see one slot when I look at the underside of a Benelli so yea, lifter slot/carrrier slot. Look at the under side of the flapper/carrier/lifter/and then take it out and bevel the INSIDE of the back of the lifter/carrier/flapper do hicky with a file. Kind of like where a shell might go when released from the mag tube as it slides back along the SLOT/ releif cut/ straight line guidence cut/ etc.By the by... the thingy that carries the shells up to the chamber is the carrier, AKA.... lifter, flaper thingy, Benelli thumb cutter...etc. Benlli calls all this stuff by vastly different names, so I am doing my best KurtM Yep,Yep I see those hooma-dingys. Thanks Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS6 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 last year at the Benning 3 gun I was running remington deer slayer slugs (I got them for like .50 eacha couple years ago_)anyway they kick fairly decently and when I ran this ammo my bolt/ carier woul go to the rear and lock back. I polished the internals of my carrier assembly and greased them and with hot ammo the gun still locks the carrier/bolt back. I think I need to replace the carrier spring, is this right? PS the gun runs fine with birdshot and milder slugs This is caused by a weak magazine spring. This is an inertia operated gun and so I know you understand the principal of inertia which makes explaining this easier. What is happening with the bolt/inertia spring, ALSO happens in the magazine tube. If recoil is strong enough, the shotgun shell in the tube wants to stay in place while the gun moves backwards (inertia). If the spring is weak, it is allowed to do so to whatever extent. My M4S90 would do this (bolt lock-back, or appear to) when I ran a full-length tube with the OEM spring and shot heavy buckshot loads. Replace the magazine spring and go from there. You may need a different spring as well, but the mag-tube spring is the most common culprit when someone says "Last shell/heavy loads/etc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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