Franklin D Wolverton Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 We got a second connex box to put our targets and props in at the range. I've been down there off an on for the last couple weeks moving stuff around, sorting, cleaning, tossing ect. One of the nice things about this is that I found a TON of stuff I didn't even know we had. I found more poppers, a bunch more plates, 8 full size steel hard cover targets, ect. What it got me to thinking is that I have just about enough steel to set up 2 or 3 32 round all steel stages (even without using the texas star). Then I said... you know what? A bunch of our shooters get mind-hosed on steel stages... I set up usually a 20 shot steel stage once a month, and plenty of my guys run out of ammo trying to clear THAT... let alone a couple 32 rounders... Crap... I hate it when the economy screws up my stage designs... But... there's always next year... (Hello Area 5...) Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Sooner or later people will just have to learn how to shoot better. I say use the steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Sooner or later people will just have to learn how to shoot better.I say use the steel. +1 I love shooting steel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcCracken Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Less to paste. Use the steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasOPM Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I had this conversation with someone the other day- I wish that I could replace all of the IPSC targets on the classifiers with USPs. I shoot steel so much faster and better than paper. I love using a lot of steel for my matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Using steel wastes less paper. "Go Green" and use the steel! Your club members will thank you later (after they get over steelitus). Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris iliff Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Set up a match today and we used every piece of steel at the club I think. Never got the difference to people. I say use every piece you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) If you set the steel out there all the time people will get used to it. I grew up shooting steel, took some time to get used to looking for the A zone. I am getting used to it, just like they will. Just start small and build it up a little every month. You will be teaching them to get better at steel and they will probably not even realize it. Edited April 12, 2009 by JimmyZip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcs5 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 You now Im down...make up the stage and ill shoot it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin D Wolverton Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 Y'all are preaching to the choir... I love shooting steel as well... thats why I'm REALLY excited about Tom's match at Barry next month (the Metal Works 500). BUT... Y'all aren't the one everyone complains to because they ran out of ammo and still had 6 mikes Another thing we have in our new box is 10 or 12 .22lr plate racks... I'm gonna have fun with side matches... Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcs5 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 means I get to buy another gun!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM262 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 We shot a stage yesterday that had 22 pieces of steel and it was a hoot. There will be 32 pieces at Area 6; go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 My contribution to the cause. Razor.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooney Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Don't forget you've gotta use 1 paper target...but only 1. One of the best USPSA stages I shot was at the Smith and Wesson factory, Chris from Westfield Practical Shooters set up "Chris' Constellation", a 32 round, 30 steel/ 1 paper COF, shot indoors with questionable (at best) lighting (FO sights didn't really have enough light to be effective), at 20 yards (I think). Great fun, not so great times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin D Wolverton Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 Nope... you don't need use a paper target. The rules state: 4.3.1.4 Various sizes of metal plates may be used (see Appendix B5), however, metal plates must not be used exclusively in a course of fire. At least one authorized paper target or Popper must be included in each course of fire. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spray_N_Prey Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Nope... you don't need use a paper target. The rules state:4.3.1.4 Various sizes of metal plates may be used (see Appendix B5), however, metal plates must not be used exclusively in a course of fire. At least one authorized paper target or Popper must be included in each course of fire. Frank +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWard Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I love steel. 1) Shooting Production or SS, it makes you think more about reloads... With paper, it's 4 targets, 8 shots, mag-change... repeat... With steel, you might run it clean, you might not. Put 7-8 steel in one array, and drive the single-stack and production guys nuts! If you can't slow down and make hits on 8" steel, you DESERVE to run out of ammo... If you can hit 8 steel, even at distance with 8-10 shots, you deserve to score better. 2) I feel too many stages are set up by/for the "hosers", and not enough for the "shooters". The tougher the shots, the better chance I have of winning the stage... Because I learned to shoot GROUPS, before I learned (still learning) to shoot fast! I vote for more 8" steel at 15+ yards! My 2 cents... JW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotm4 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I say keep on the steel. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 If they can only make a harder lighter steels!! I'll keep dreaming. Use the steels there's nothing like shooting it on the move and start running when the steels are just starting to fall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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