bruin Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I am loading for several guns. The one I have the most trouble finding loading data for is the 40 cal. I am looking for loading data for 145 grain cast bullets to be shot from a race gun. I have Power Pistol for the powder. Any suggestions for a manual or any other information would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 bruin, you might want to look up a Sierra Loading Manual. From what I remember they had a lot of cast info. Also Alliant Powder (Power Pistol iis an Alliant powder I think) has a website for loading but not much info on cast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I am loading for several guns. The one I have the most trouble finding loading data for is the 40 cal. I am looking for loading data for 145 grain cast bullets to be shot from a race gun. I have Power Pistol for the powder. Any suggestions for a manual or any other information would be greatly appreciated. If you already have standard loading manuals and don't need the additional reference material in a normal manual, the Loadbooks USA One Book/One Caliber manual is handy. They actually combine 10mm, 40S&W together and have pretty much all the current data from all the bullet companies and powder companies. I didn't find anything specifically for a 145gr cast bullet, but there is some data that would be safe and get you in the right ballpark. Alliant lists data for a 150gr JHP and PP with a max of 8.2gr for a velocity of 1215 out of a 4" barrel. Since lead will be lower in pressure you should be safe using that as a max. Speer lists data for a 155gr TMJ and PP with a max of 9.0gr for a velocity of 1213 out of a 4" barrel using a 1.135" oal. The TMJ might use less case capacity compared with the JHP above which would allow for the extra powder and resulting same velocity. Nosler lists data for a 150gr JHP and PP with a max of 8.0gr for a velocity of 1170 out of a 4" barrel (Smith 4006) and an oal of 1.135". Hornady lists data for a 155gr JHP (XTP) and PP with a max of 8.6gr for a velocity of 1200 out of a 4" barrel (Smith 4006) and an oal of 1.135". So, it looks like you'd be plenty safe with that bullet a max of somewhere in the low 8 range. Hope that helps. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleStacker45 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'm disapointed that the speer left out the hogdon powders but they are available via the hogdon website. I have had good luck using the hogdon website or using the info on this forum. Mule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMS42 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 The Lyman and Laser Cast manuals have lots of data for cast bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom S. Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Most reloading manuals are company driven. That means Speer is about Speer products, Sierra about their products, etc. That doesn't mean they're not good as the do contain vital information on the reloading process. It just means the loads you find in them will be geared towards their products. For example, the latest Speer manual only lists two bullet weights for the .357 Sig, 125gr and 147gr. It ignores everything else including all cast bullets for that caliber. Two manuals that are not company product driven are the Lyman manuals and Pet Loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwt Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Buy all the loading manuals you can afford,lots of good reading inside !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufftytuffty Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 The 2009 Hogdon manual is on most of the supermarket shelves round here right now for $5.99. Don't have it with me right now but i think PP was in there...i use it for CLAYS and 231. ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Have you looked at LoadData? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisStock Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Have you looked at LoadData? +1 to that plus the information that I get from guys here in the forums, as a lot of us run similar equipment and have tons and tons of real world chrono/load data vs. controlled lab results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Try the Laser-Cast Reloading Manual. This is a load manual edited (and largely written) by USPSA Grand Master Bruce Gray, specifically for cast bullets. As you would expect from Bruce's shooting credentials, info on loads for USPSA shooting - and, actually, an entire separate chapter on the topic - feature well in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I keep versions of Speer, Lee, Lyman And Sierra loading manuals. And as mentioned http://www.loaddata.com/ it's a compilation from dozens of bullet and powder manufactures. I refer to it often and enjoy it. It is a pay site, but in my estimation a pretty good value. One of the most valuable load data/info sources anywhere is HERE. Just learn some "tactical" search techniques to uncover vast amounts of good info. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryO Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 +1 on Loaddata.com. The price is in line with what you pay for other load manuals and is more inclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 You will get 50 replies and they will mostly say something different. For rifle I prefer the Sierra manual. For pistol there are a number of good manuals. I gravitate towards the Lyman Pistol and Revolver Manual - it has a load for 40S&W with the 150gr cast bullet. But IF I had to have 1 bokk and 1 book only, then my vote would go to the Lyman 49th edition of the Reloaders Handbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I use both the Sierra and Lasercast mostly. I've got the Hornday& Nosler as well but rarely open them. These are all bullet specific. They will show dozens of powders for a specific bullet or series of bullets they make. The only powder company one I use is Hodgdon because of the shot shell recipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Forgot to add a link to the Jeff Maas site with quite a bit of data: http://www.k8nd.com/ipscload.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Forgot to add a link to the Jeff Maas site with quite a bit of data:http://www.k8nd.com/ipscload.htm As good as Jeff's site is, it is quite dated now. A lot more newer and some better powders than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Forgot to add a link to the Jeff Maas site with quite a bit of data:http://www.k8nd.com/ipscload.htm As good as Jeff's site is, it is quite dated now. A lot more newer and some better powders than before. No doubt, but it does have a fair amount of data for stuff that doesn't get published...like long .40 and stuff for Open guns. Both my .40 and .38SC loads are within a tenth or two of data on those pages, which is surprising that they're several years old. I would slightly disagree on "better" powders now compared with then. Pretty much all of the most popular powders for either seem to be listed with very few exceptions. A few alternatives like E3 and Longshot aren't there, but that's about it. Edited January 25, 2009 by G-ManBart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooddog Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I have to say the internet in general is the best manual yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ-Ranger Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I learned by reading the Lyman manuals. As someone stated previously they are not company driven. They mention Dillon by name. I can recommend the Lyman manual for those who don't know the first thing when it comes to loading. Not only is load data included, but the manual walks you through the entire loading process and provides tips and tricks. IMHO the Lyman manual is an absolute necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruin Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Thank to all who replied. This is truly the most valuable information site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 LoadData doesn't seem to have VV stuff? The VV manual has cast bullet data - including 145gr LRN loads for N340, N350, and 3N37... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtBob Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 awesome info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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