shoot Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I need help in order to build a basic airsoft open gun. I'm going broke shooting so much 9mm. I have turned recently to the dark side ... Open .... yes I dryfire but have a great airsoft setup at home that I used for production/SSP with my glock 17 KWC airsoft. It truly spoiled me shooting airsoft everyday along with my dry fire drills. I need an airsoft open gun bad but don't want to spend fortune as I already have. A friend bought a Limcat SV w/ C-More Sight, Custom Race Gun . He spent a lot and it's broken constantly. I want a better way . I am just wanting to buy a solid airsoft 2011, stick a magwell and compensator on it then mount my spare cmore then call it done. Sounds easy to me but it isn't. Has anyone built a solid race gun on the cheap ? Where do I start? I'd like this thread to just lead to the most basic of basic usable airsoft workhorse open gun that will give me same sight index on draws and transitions etc. I will dedicate a spare holster to it so it doesn't have to be a match in looks at all. Just same index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I bought the basic gun here http://www.mannyusa.com/Firearms_Training/...spian51AKB.html Then added an STI grip can't remember where from, search the topics here and there are some links. Then just add the same parts you have on your real gun in terms of scope mount and magwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 (edited) OK i got ya ... Exactly the help I wanted. I just wonder what parts are interchangeable. Would these work on a WE, WA or Caspian 2011? http://www.dentrinityshop.com/den_search.jsp PIR168 Product Name WE Hi Capa 5.1 Government Magwell PIR207 Product Name PDI SG Compensator For Marui Hi Capa 5.1 Government MSMP239SV Product Name G&P Scope Mount Base For Marui Hi Capa Series (Short) (Silver) (GP719B) Also so many compensators ... negative thread vs positive thread etc I am starting to feel there is hope here. Edited October 24, 2008 by shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 You might ask Manny, though I think he's away at the WS right now. You might want to ask this on an airsoft forum. Try the forums through Evike.com. kc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Try www.airsoftforum.com Evike is where I got the STI grip for my gun http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.ph...oducts_id=25071 Also consider that you don't really have a functional need for the compensator, so I just left it off of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 I have been searching the airsoft forums but there is nothing about doing what I want to do . How to build a basic low cost open gun is the topic. My open gun is a darn race car that is very finicky with fuel and is an adventure from tuning mags to loading ammo etc etc. It's a race car. I want a darn pick up truck airsoft race gun. Simple and basic. They weigh about 3lbs without a mag so that is darn close to my open right out of the box. I should be good to go with a magwell and mount for my cmore. I do however not want to reinvent the wheel if there is common knowledge available. Airsoft forums don't have anything on this topic. If anyone sees something let me know. I continue to search but will begin buying parts then making them work Monday. Thank you for all the info. This is going to work. It's amazing what one can do with a fools mentality to go where brave men more knowledgeable dare not go. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 You can buy already made open guns, but they cost a ton. The answer is if you want something basic and cheap to buy a basic gun and drill and tap the frame for the same scope mount you already use, put your cmore on and voila it's an open gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrettone Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I own two of these, and they are the shit!!! One is set up for open, the other for limited. Makes practice in the basement realistic!!! Airsoft Surgeon is THE AUTHORITY for airsoft competition guns. He builds them for all the Japaneese IPSC shooters. He has them from $400-$2700. If you want the best...he is the man. Otherwise convert a 5.1 Hi-Capa and do it on the cheap. See ad: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...tegory?menu1=20 Airsoftsurgeon Dragon Ringo Competition Pistol (Full Metal Body) - (PRE-ORDER) A mythical weapon for serious collector and shooter! Full steel lower receiver (with 2011 engraving), ported barrel with aluminum rear slide for quick blowback cycling action. The entire pistol was carved out of steel and aluminum using precision CNC machining. Very appealing silvery chromed surface for extra BLING. Authentic laser engraving on chamber block. Rigid and heavy framework, together with Full CL Airsoft Surgeon internal upgrades with many custom made parts, this weapon is capable of doing over 360fps of power using RED GAS. This pistol uses the original WA HI-CAP design (pre - SCW design) which all experienced airsofters know is far superior in terms of performance and reliability. Compatible with Top Gas also. STI grip with STI engraved mag well, custom CNC'd hammer and lightened safety for fast activation and deactivation (for competitive IPSC shooting). Beautiful CNC'd fish-scale pattern on slide gives you a firm grip for pulling the slide back. Fiber optic front sight. We know this is a very expensive piece. It is a hand-bulit custom gun from the ground up with very little production parts. Recommended for IPSC airsoft shooters only and not for the casual player. Click here for more pictures. Airsoft Surgeon recommends to cock the hammer during magazine loading and unloading to avoid the long hammer pin being bumped and damaged by the magazine. This is standard practice on all competition pistols with enhanced valve pins for extra power. Product Brand Airsoftsurgeon Product Code CL-GBB-RINGO Hop-Up NONE Weight 1,180 g Length 242.0 mm Capacity 33 rds Power 360.0 fps Power Source Top Gas, Red Gas Blowback YES Shooting Mode Semi Price (USD) $2,780.00 Out of Stock Stock Alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Sounds like a great cheap way to practice, but How Accurate are these guns? How far will they shoot accurately? Will they stay in a three inch circle at 50 feet? Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...hl=open+airsoft Here is my open airsoft PM me and I will hook you up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfpmb Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 how to build open airsoft video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizer Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Actually, one can do alot of DIY works to make theirs perform better. There's alot of DIY hacks online that you can replicate. TM's good, but quite abit needs to be spent if you're going for the metal slide and all. WE's Achilles heel is it's own weight. It's internals are made of pot metals which is quite soft with accelerated wear and tear IMHO. A good & cheap candidate is the KJW's KP-05 or KP-06. It's full metal & the internal's are with real metal, so it's good for high milers. It also comes with adjustable triggers and two mags (1xpropane gas, 1xCO2)The downside is the slide's pretty heavy hence the slow return to battery. A set of 150% recoil spring set will make it much better. There's a cheap C-More Serendipity replica selling for around USD50.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyNo! Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 There's a cheap C-More Serendipity replica selling for around USD50.00. I hear it can't be properly zeroed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizer Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 That sir, I'm not sure as I haven't got mine. But from what I read, it's zeroable. There's other choices as well. Like the replica Docter sight (have one of those mounted on AEGs. Both windage and elevation is adjustable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 any recommendation to C-more clone available CONUS? i recently contacted Redwolf and they have that RD Dynamics fit perfectly for my Hi-Capa 5.1. that is $99 and i asked for shipping they ignored that question i tried manny he doesnt have the c-more style. any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Don't bother with the RD C-more clone. The reflective optical coating on the lens is rather low quality and reflects back much more light than just the red LED. In bright conditions such as outdoors the sight is barely usable. Midway frequently has C-more railway sights on sale for $199. Right now the Intregral mount version is on sale for $199. A hacksaw and a file will convert the Intregal mount version to fit your airsoft mount. C-more railway C-more Intregal mount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jid2 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) I have a $60 C-More clone on my airsoft gun - it is excellent. I got the one that is a blatant copy, down to the engraving of "C-More" and everything from Ebay. My impression: - For a real gun get the real deal and support C-More. For your $100 airsoft, the knockoff seems OK. - Overall fit and finish in terms of plastic molding is better on the knock-off when compared to my real C-more. Less mold flash etc. - Hardware on the knock off is low quality and not as nice/precise. - My airsoft with $60 C-More holds zero perfectly and does a great job even outdoors in full sun. - The dot crispness is better on the knock-off! Edited September 13, 2010 by jid2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Hey Jid2, thanks for the PM. i ordered mine yesterday. When i get it i'll post a review here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jid2 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 (edited) Here are some pictures of my open airsoft. It's a WE Tech CQB Master with the mentioned HK special $60 C-more clone. The gun is all metal and comes with the magwell and 2 mags for $110 or something like that from evike.com. Close up of grinding of the rear fixed sight for C-More clearance. Edited October 14, 2010 by jid2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfpmb Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 (edited) Very good. I went through a couple of overseas red-dots. they are all different and vary greatly in quality. You could easily waste your money, I have, because some have terrible dots, are hard to zero, and are phillips/ not hex (easily stripped). Here is a good one below. Definitely ask someone who has one before you buy. You could waste your money and if that happens you should have just bought a C-More instead. Maybe I will take pics of some of the ones I have. Well the link did not show, it might be because the video is on facebook. Here is pics of some that were good. Edited November 25, 2010 by sfpmb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfpmb Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 (edited) lets see if I can get this video up here. link red dot video Edited November 26, 2010 by sfpmb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUbor9 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I just bought a TM from airsoftsmith.com hicapa 5.1 8000bb 1 extra mag $211 ish still looking for a cmore look alike or cheap real thing. i dont think im going to bother with a comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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