Merlin Orr Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 We have from time to time thought of running a "Men in Black" match, wear your old, no londer serviceable suit to shoot the match. All stages stat with jacket buttoned. No trick crap allowed. You have to actually unbutton your jacket, draw and engage. You would be allowed other than dress shoes for safety reasons on the indoor range floor. Just too slippery!. Might even require sunglasses and a tie. Jim You obviously live on a different planet than I..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Got my vest in a streetside stall in Hong Kong - I think it was 70 HK dollars (something under $10 US). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modoc Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 We have from time to time thought of running a "Men in Black" match, wear your old, no londer serviceable suit to shoot the match. All stages stat with jacket buttoned. No trick crap allowed. You have to actually unbutton your jacket, draw and engage. You would be allowed other than dress shoes for safety reasons on the indoor range floor. Just too slippery!. Might even require sunglasses and a tie. Jim Jim, I love the idea, but............ Most of us don't wear our OLD suits for fit reasons, not style . I can see it now, (insert name) bends over to police brass and splits the seat out of his suit pants on the first stage Just my luck, I'd be the first one to do it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiPowering Along Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 eBay. The thrifty shooter's friend... Got two of the Woolrich Photographer's vests for less than $20.00 each. Do a search on ' men's woolrich vest ' and see what comes up. If you're the patient sort, you'll find a good bargain there. Or you can pay the straight $70.00 for the Woolrich Elite vest if you want - that's too much ammo money down the tubes for me, tho.... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Burtchell Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I purchased my 5.11 vest from Wilson Combat's website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNorth Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 (edited) For those interested in yet another alternative that is a good deal cheaper than the 5.11 vest Cabela's safari vest does a nice job. It sells for $49.95 and is well made with plenty of pockets. I actually prefer the pocket configuration over the 5.11 vest but don't ask me to explain the differences. The safari vest does not have any velcro pads/stiffeners in it. But I haven't had any trouble drawing from under it.DWS Yep, that is what I bought also. Edited February 3, 2008 by BNorth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacspopo Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 http://competitiveconcealment.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 http://competitiveconcealment.com/ Competition only garments are prohibited. Competition only garments are defined as: vented or mesh vests that allow the firearm, holster, spare ammo or ammo carriers to be visible when standing normally.... I don't believe the vest shown in that link could possibly be legal since its entire back is see-through mesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg K Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 http://competitiveconcealment.com/ Competition only garments are prohibited. Competition only garments are defined as: vented or mesh vests that allow the firearm, holster, spare ammo or ammo carriers to be visible when standing normally.... I don't believe the vest shown in that link could possibly be legal since its entire back is see-through mesh. There are a lot of them in use. I only heard of one problem and that was a shooter that had a vest that did not fit his body type and the gear could be seen through the mesh. As quoted in the rule, the gear can not be visible. If you have one of these vests that fit right the gear won't be visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 just got this today... pretty sweet for the price http://www.lapolicegear.com/saphve.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 http://competitiveconcealment.com/ Competition only garments are prohibited. Competition only garments are defined as: vented or mesh vests that allow the firearm, holster, spare ammo or ammo carriers to be visible when standing normally.... I don't believe the vest shown in that link could possibly be legal since its entire back is see-through mesh. There are a lot of them in use. I only heard of one problem and that was a shooter that had a vest that did not fit his body type and the gear could be seen through the mesh. As quoted in the rule, the gear can not be visible. If you have one of these vests that fit right the gear won't be visible. Badlands Regional Championship April 26 – 27, 2008 Tulsa OK 2008 TX State IDPA Championship June 7, 2008 Greenville TX Coastal Bend Challenge March 30, 2008 Corpus Christi TX show up at any of these shoots and see how many shooters are wearing them..i shot out west last yr and saw several hundred thousand shooters wearing them...well...everything is bigger in texas....right???? i would think shooting in 100 deg weather they would be the ticket to wear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcap Magician Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Woolrich Elite Lightweight Vest from RSR through my local dealer. I like the lightweight version as it is plain without all of the extra pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stony Lane Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 +1 - Woolrich Lightweight Vest - $59.99 from Midway. Not so much extra "junk" hanging on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rita Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 +1 also on the Woolrich lightweight vest. I like it so much I ordered a black one as well for concealed carry. I think it doesn't look that much like a tactical vest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trail3 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I use the 511 for winter and major matches. I have a mesh vest that I use for summer club matches. It is too hot here in Ca. I did win a Woolrich light weight vest. I really like it. If it wasn't black I would use that one year round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaritx Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 for general information: when the new rule book came out Steve and Donna ( http://competitiveconcealment.com/ ) called IDPA and got an "official" status on their vests. They were considered legal by IDPA. I highly recommend them. Garry N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneRider Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Don't understand the 'vest' thing? If I saw someone wearing one of those vests at the local Wal-Mart I would know thye are carrying! I just use an old BDU shirt, plenty of pockets and lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Brass Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Don't understand the 'vest' thing?If I saw someone wearing one of those vests at the local Wal-Mart I would know thye are carrying! I just use an old BDU shirt, plenty of pockets and lighter. Lonerider, there are so few people that shoot IDPA (or any shooting sport for that matter) it is statistically insignificant relative to the general population of the USA. Yes, if you saw someone wearing a 5.11 vest, your first thought would be "he's carrying". However, 99.999% of the rest of the world would think "he's a photographer". I'm currently in Mexico on vacation and I saw a guy wearing a similar vest today. My first thought was, "this guy must be carrying". So I tailed him for about 2 min just to satisfy my curiosity. He was a photographer. My point here is that there are a lot more photographers in the US than there are CCW holders who wear 5.11 vests. I've worn mine many times when I was not armed because it is just a very convenient way to carry a bunch of junk around Disney World or similar place. Be careful because the old "shoot the guy with the vest first" mentality could get someone into a real mess if he turns out to be a good guy. I hear the "that vest is a dead giveaway" comment all the time and I don't think it is reality. I've worn mine in enough public places that if it were going to draw attention, it would have before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneRider Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 OK, that makes sense. But I just don't really like vests anyway.My BDU shirt works just fine and I got it for $12.95. It's just right now that it's a little chilly, if it gets too hot this summer I'll just roll the sleeves up. I'm used to wearing long sleeves shooting Cowboy so it won't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suches Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Don't understand the 'vest' thing?If I saw someone wearing one of those vests at the local Wal-Mart I would know thye are carrying! I just use an old BDU shirt, plenty of pockets and lighter. Lonerider, there are so few people that shoot IDPA (or any shooting sport for that matter) it is statistically insignificant relative to the general population of the USA. Yes, if you saw someone wearing a 5.11 vest, your first thought would be "he's carrying". However, 99.999% of the rest of the world would think "he's a photographer". I'm currently in Mexico on vacation and I saw a guy wearing a similar vest today. My first thought was, "this guy must be carrying". So I tailed him for about 2 min just to satisfy my curiosity. He was a photographer. My point here is that there are a lot more photographers in the US than there are CCW holders who wear 5.11 vests. I've worn mine many times when I was not armed because it is just a very convenient way to carry a bunch of junk around Disney World or similar place. Be careful because the old "shoot the guy with the vest first" mentality could get someone into a real mess if he turns out to be a good guy. I hear the "that vest is a dead giveaway" comment all the time and I don't think it is reality. I've worn mine in enough public places that if it were going to draw attention, it would have before now. The lesson is: if you see someone at Disney who looks like Hot Brass (tall and trying to figure out how the gizmos work for future match design purposes), he's carrying. Seriously, the vest is only a giveaway for the indoctrinated. I've asked several LEO shooters about this, and they say even most cops are clueless on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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