Joe D Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Is anyone else having problems with these bullets leading up their barrels? They lead all my stock Glock, aftermarket Glock and Kimber barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 I am thinking Titegroup might be the problem. I use a 160 gr bullet in 9mm. BTW how does Solo 1000 meter through a Dillon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Joe, I would agree with your thought that the TG isnt helping the situation. It is a limited use powder for me now due to the high heat that it generates, and I am switching to Solo 1000 for lead bullets, and possibly jacketed. From what I have been told by many it runs fine through the Dillons, since that is what they use. DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I too have had trouble with tite group and the Bear Creeks. When I get Back i'm going to experiment with other powders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I am thinking Titegroup might be the problem. I use a 160 gr bullet in 9mm. BTW how does Solo 1000 meter through a Dillon? Joe - I just loaded 1000 rounds of .45 ACP 230 grain RNLs with Solo 1000. No problems with the measure, but if you try to turn the shellplate too quickly you risk spilling powder when the shellplate snaps into the detent. The case is almost half full with 4.7 grains. You'd be running about 3 grains in a 9x19 case, so you'd have to be careful as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 Is Solo a ball, flattened ball or flake powder. How does it compare in size to say Titegroup or Clays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Is Solo a ball, flattened ball or flake powder. How does it compare in size to say Titegroup or Clays? It appears to be a flattened ball powder, smaller than Clays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Joe if your shooting 40 try universal clays at around 4.7 and work up OAL 1.180ish. If shooting 9mm I found that there wasn't a good powder with 9 and molys for me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Is Solo a ball, flattened ball or flake powder. How does it compare in size to say Titegroup or Clays? Solo 1000 is a single base, flake powder. I run it under 147's in 9mm for my production loads with moly, cast or jacketed and haven't had any problems with leading in the "normal" rifling in my CZ. I can't say the same about Titegroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted December 20, 2007 Author Share Posted December 20, 2007 What load are you using with the 147s? OAL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 What load are you using with the 147s? OAL? 3.3 to 3.4 grains. 3.3 will make minor loaded short but I like the feel of 3.4 @ 1.135 and it went 127 to 128 PF without fail (so far) and I haven't seen any leading. I always suggest starting at 3.2 and working up as there is NO published data for Solo 1000 in 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 ...there is NO published data for Solo 1000 in 9mm. Well, there is no data for 147 grain bullets with Solo 1000. There is data for up to 125 grain ones, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 ...there is NO published data for Solo 1000 in 9mm. Well, there is no data for 147 grain bullets with Solo 1000. There is data for up to 125 grain ones, though. Huh... News to me. Must be totally new. I've never been able to find any Solo 1000 data for any 9mm loads and even an e-mail to the ballistician (Johan L.) at Accurate confirmed there wasn't any published data for 9mm loads because they consider it way to fast for 9's. Did you find the data on Accurate's web site? I'm having serious computer trouble here today and can't get .pdf's to open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midvalleyshooter Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I am thinking Titegroup might be the problem. I use a 160 gr bullet in 9mm. BTW how does Solo 1000 meter through a Dillon? Bearcreek is our local bullet maker out this way. I have used a lot of his bullets. In 9mm For 147 grain I load 3.8 grains of Unique. I know its an old school powder but it works great with these bullets. There used to be a label inside the bullets boxes advising agaisnt using hot fast powders. Titegroup burns as hot as any powder I have used. When I was cowboy shooting it was popular because even with a light load it still makes a loud bark Unique is also nice in that it fills the case up nicely and will over flow with a double charge. Happy New Year, Keith PS if you don't want the bullets I will pay a fair price for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 I had a long conversation with the BC folks. I think we have come to the conclusion that the bullets are a little undersize. He is going to send me some larger diameter ones to test. They should be a minimum of .3565". These are just barely .356". I may just try some Unique. I have 3 one lb. unopened cans that are only 20+ years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Are Beer Creeks bullets still in business and for sale? I couldnt get a connection w/ the online site. Precision is out of 147gr black bullets and Masterblaster is out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 They are still in business. Their website expired and someone "parked" there. I talked with them last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Joe, What is their phone/contact info? I would like to contact them about a bullet order. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Manley Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 ...there is NO published data for Solo 1000 in 9mm. Well, there is no data for 147 grain bullets with Solo 1000. There is data for up to 125 grain ones, though. Huh... News to me. Must be totally new. I've never been able to find any Solo 1000 data for any 9mm loads and even an e-mail to the ballistician (Johan L.) at Accurate confirmed there wasn't any published data for 9mm loads because they consider it way to fast for 9's. Did you find the data on Accurate's web site? I'm having serious computer trouble here today and can't get .pdf's to open. FWIW (and despite, the .PDF file troubles), there is older Scot Powder load data for S-1000 and 9MM lighter bullets in the linked .pdf below provided in another thread: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...st&id=12717 I wouldn't hazard a guess whether or not Accurate has made any changes since their acquisition of Solo. I've shot it at 4.0 Gr. under a MG/CMJ...great feel and super clean but in my gun, I have more accurate loads. I do intend to tweak the charge and OAL a bit...I'd love to get this stuff to shoot in a 9MM. If possible, this could be the 9MM equivalent of everybody's favorite Clays | .45 ACP load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 (edited) I had a long conversation with the BC folks. I think we have come to the conclusion that the bullets are a little undersize. He is going to send me some larger diameter ones to test. They should be a minimum of .3565". These are just barely .356".I may just try some Unique. I have 3 one lb. unopened cans that are only 20+ years old. I've had some trouble with the BC 147's being a bit small for my Glock OEM bbls (tumbling), but they're deadly accurate out of the BarSto bbl I switched to. I have noticed that the coating is slick but soft, and that, at least at the OAL I load for my G17, it can scrape off and build up on top of the chamber where I think the bullet is hitting as it feeds. I occasionally get failures to feed in the BarSto bbl because of this. No problems chambering in the Glock bbl, but then there's the tumbling. As you found out, and as I have been told, BC can size bullets to a different diameter for you. I'm going to try some sized up before my next big order, and fiddle the OAL. KC ETA: no leading in either bbl, though, shooting a couple hundred at a time. Edited January 4, 2008 by kevin c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 4, 2008 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 You have to load the heavy bullets really long to stop the tumble. I am loading the 160 gr bullets out to 1.160" in our Glocks. I am going to do more testing with Alox this weekend. I got little if any leading in my LWD barrel. I will see how they do in a Glock barrel. I have shot hard cast bullets through my Glock barrels for years with good results. My practice load is 3.5 gr of TG with a 125 gr lead bullet. Goes 1050 fps with zero leading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 You have to load the heavy bullets really long to stop the tumble. I am loading the 160 gr bullets out to 1.160" in our Glocks.I am going to do more testing with Alox this weekend. I got little if any leading in my LWD barrel. I will see how they do in a Glock barrel. I have shot hard cast bullets through my Glock barrels for years with good results. My practice load is 3.5 gr of TG with a 125 gr lead bullet. Goes 1050 fps with zero leading. Does 1160 play well in the 10 rd mags? Thought that was a bit on the long side for the mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 The 1.160" length works fine in a Glock mag. Seems to me Winchester WB is at least that long. I have some regular lead bullets on the way from Knead - 160 RN and 150 SWC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) The 1.160" length works fine in a Glock mag. Seems to me Winchester WB is at least that long. I have some regular lead bullets on the way from Knead - 160 RN and 150 SWC. I can't remember for sure, but that WWB OAL sounds right Joe Edited January 5, 2008 by JThompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 Kevin, sorry about the phone # here it is. 209-874-4322 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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