Middle Man Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Bullpup...308...Kel Tec? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSnjXM9d8MY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I'm more intrigued by the 30"+ long barrel that FS mentioned. That could be about the length of a 20"-24" bolt gun which would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Ejection seems weak. Would empties eject if shooting pointing high, as from prone to high target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 My understanding is that the bolt is V shaped and it pushes the the case into the ejection tube. Cases in the tube are pushed forward by the ones behind it. It seems strange but I don't think they are the only ones to use such a concept. The FN2000 and a couple of others use the same idea which allows for ambi controls without worrying about having brass thrown in your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestock Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 That thing looks like it kicks like mule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshF Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 The ejection doesn't seem real "positive", or maybe that's just a perception thing next to the recoil! Maybe they should have tried .223 first?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anopsis Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I looked it over at SHOT 07, and it is definately different. IF (big if) the long-barrelled version was accurate enough it could be a good semi-auto sniper - block the ejection tube, fire 3-4 shots, and leave without having to pick up your brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I like the ejection concept, but I wish it was a little more positive. In a combat situation, it would be very obvious your gun was empty when you tilt the gun to reload and 4 rounds of brass fall out the front. Almost as bad as the "Ping" sound of an M1 Garand clip Swede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 there is article in the "front sight" magazine. lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 a guy came out to the range with the new FN bullpup rifle with the same ejection port arrangement. I didn't like it, ejection seemed weak, the whole rifle felt like a airsoft. way too much plastic for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston in Austin Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 The 25mm bushmaster chain gun has a similar ejection pattern. Seems to work for it. Oh it makes major as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 This is the second or third time that I have seen this type of ejection design and I have no problem with the thought that the empty is placed in a tube instead of being tossed out immediately. My question is what you do in case of a jam? What happens if the shell does not get under the extractor so that ou can cycle it out manually? With no ejection port, you probably have to field strip the rifle to clear the jam. Not exactly my idea of user friendly, regardless of how reliable it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 The whole point in having that type of ejection is so you can shoot the gun weakside. In previous bullpups the ejection port was near your head. So if you wanted to shoot weakside (disabled strong hand, wanted to maximize cover around a corner, etc) with a traditional bullpup... you really couldn't. The empties or even the bolt handle would tear up your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 a guy came out to the range with the new FN bullpup rifle with the same ejection port arrangement. I didn't like it, ejection seemed weak, the whole rifle felt like a airsoft. way too much plastic for me. Shot one of those this past weekend too. It was an odd arrangement, but fun to shoot on close in targets. The FN really, really needed a different place to put your off hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 a guy came out to the range with the new FN bullpup rifle with the same ejection port arrangement. I didn't like it, ejection seemed weak, the whole rifle felt like a airsoft. way too much plastic for me. Shot one of those this past weekend too. It was an odd arrangement, but fun to shoot on close in targets. The FN really, really needed a different place to put your off hand. Since it was my FS-2000 Middle Man was shooting I thought I had to pop in on this thread and say hi... As to the jam comment... The FS-2000 has a "inspection port" on top of the reciever that gives you some access to the chamber (under a closed hatch). Not sure if the Keltech has the same system if not it should. I had one double feed in the FS-2000 from a bad mag, which due to the inspection port was no harder to clear than the same problem from my AR... /Thread Drift ON/ As to the FS200 ,Yes it is strange, yes it needs a vert foregrip or something to give your weak hand a good place to be, and the sights suck... With a C-more mounted, however, it is wickedly fast on close targets due to there being almost no weight out at the end of the rifle. /Thread Drift OFF/ Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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