slavex Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 now that the KISS bullet feeder is running at high volume, a problem that only bothered me occasionally on my 1050 is happening a lot more often. 9mm cases aren't dropping down the drop tube, instead they are somehow turning sideways and getting underneath the collator plate. at first one or two don't do anything, but then the third one jams the whole machine up. now I need to use long needle nosed pliers to get in there and get them out. anyone have a solution for this? I don't have that many cases in the hopper, but the collator plate does seem to rise up a bit from the pressure of the cases in the hopper. I am flummoxed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I had the same issue. I purchased the white plastic funnel and all's well now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 I have the white plastic funnel, that's what's really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANeat Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I have the white plastic funnel, that's what's really annoying. There is a spacer that is supposed to go under the shellplate (spacer #13703) It is for loading longer cases, 30 carbine, 45 colt, magnum cases. I would check and see if you might have that spacer installed. For your 9mm you would need to remove it if its there. Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Mine does exactly the same thing. dillon has some ring or something that is supposed to fix it. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 no spacer at all. I actually was thinking of putting a spacer of somesuch between the motor and where it mounts to step it back a bit, but then I am not sure if the collator plate will catch the drive pins or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I clipped a piece of plastic into the funnel and made the funnel size a tad smaller and it seemed to solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 can you show me a pic Pete? my problem is they are getting under the collator right where the tab that knocks out upside down cases is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Be sure the casefeeder is running at low speed. If at high speed, it can pull the case underneath the disc sometimes. Also, the case feed plate should almost drag on the bottom of the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 This may seem obvious but make sure that the feeder is level & plumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 hmm hadn't tried slow speed to be honest. Is there a way to shim the motor so that the case feed plate is almost dragging all the way around the hopper? when it reaches the top of it's arc it has a lot of play. oh and the feeder is plumb. thanks for all the help guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dame Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 (edited) I had the same issue with my 650, I put the white funnel thing in but I gave it a real healthy chamfer on top so the case would slide in rather then fall. No problems since then, and at high speed. knock on wood Edited January 19, 2007 by Mike Dame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 My 1050 casefeeder is so old it only has one speed ---- but I used to have the same problem. It went away when I started adding only 250-300 cases at a time...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 can you show me a pic Pete? my problem is they are getting under the collator right where the tab that knocks out upside down cases is. Here Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 yup, that won't help me Pete, my problem happens where that piece of nylon doesn't make it to. I am trying the slow setting. I don't remember why I was using the high speed one before. I think maybe the clutch was adjusted wrong when I got it or something and the slow didn't do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I just re-read the first post - oops. I know it's going to sound like a dumb question but, Do you have the correct (small) feed plate in the feeder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 This happens to me when I load too many cases in at one time. What happens in my case is that two cases will ride up to the drop off point and wedge at the top. I only put a couple hundred cases in at a time now and put a drywall screw through the side at the top area to "push" off the top case if it comes through. Seems to work ok now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Provan Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I had no problems to speak of with my casefeeder with 40 S&W but when I went to 38 super I had alot of the porblems mentioned in this thread. I placed a small wooden doorjam shim under the shell plate at the bottom of the feeder. This forced the top of the plate to run on the feeder thus pushing the cases from the bottom not the middle. I have not had a case not feed in the tube since then. I am thinking of changing the wooden shim to a piece of nylon. Just make sure it will not catch on the bottom of the shell plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 so I tore the whole thing apart after discovering that I don't really have a slow setting on my collator. even with only 100 cases in it, it barely moves on slow. So I took it apart and stuck washers between the gear box and the collator bin. this makes the plate have less movement up and down as the drive shaft is not so high up. seems to be working pretty good now. Except suddenly I am getting some upside down cases, but not a big deal, I think maybe I need to bend the little knocker tab a little more. It probably got straightened when I took the case plate out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 the 1050 casefeeder does have two speeds: low is approximately 2 RPM, whereas high is approximately 4RPM. This speed can vary by up to 1/2 RPM, FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 oh when it's empty it has two speeds, but with even just 100 cases in it, it only has one speed. The slow speed won't turn, probably need a new motor or something. This is an old RL1050 afterall. if I start going crazy again, after my attempt at a fix above, I'll contact Dillon and see about getting a new motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I have been having this same problem.. I'm going to try carl's fix..... you might be my hero carl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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