bruce282 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I'm trying to decide between a second G17, a G34, or a G35. I don't reload so I would be using factory ammo. I shoot USPSA and IDPA. I've shot WWB value pack 165gr .40's in my CZ but not having a chrno, I'm wondering if they can be expected to make major all the time, i.e. regardless of the weather? I'm leaning towards one of the 9mm, since then I'd have a backup gun to take to matches. What say the experts? Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I don't have personal chrono data, but I checked Jeff Maass' data and 165gr WWB wasn't tested. Other factory loads were moving ~1020 FPS, which would make major. Maass' data does have 180gr WWB listed at ~1040 FPS, also making major. As always, guns vary and you should test your own gun over the chrono to know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockrocker Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I'm trying to decide between a second G17, a G34, or a G35. I don't reload so I would be using factory ammo. I shoot USPSA and IDPA. I've shot WWB value pack 165gr .40's in my CZ but not having a chrno, I'm wondering if they can be expected to make major all the time, i.e. regardless of the weather?I'm leaning towards one of the 9mm, since then I'd have a backup gun to take to matches. What say the experts? Bruce I'm not one of "the experts" but... WWB makes major with a G35. I can't find my numbers on 40 cal but I found some on 9mm with a G17 which easily makes minor: WWB 115gr Outside temp 84 10 shots High Velocity 1207 fps Low Velocity 1145 fps Avg Velocity 1167 Avg P.F. 134.28 9mm WWB is about $5.00 a box cheaper than 40 at Wal-Mart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisa006 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Almost all factory 9 will make minor, the problem is with the 40. Some do but by a wide margin. That is why so many of us reload. I don't want a 40 making 187pf. Talk with Danny at Atlantic ammo, He has a 147JHP 9mm that Dave Savigny uses that is great. He also makes 40 major reloads that Phil Strader uses. I have used both and they were great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineshootah Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Far from an expert, However, my G35 eats WWB all day long and makes major. (not by much.. but it does) Having shot a 21 in L-10, I really like the 35. Jay I'm trying to decide between a second G17, a G34, or a G35. I don't reload so I would be using factory ammo. I shoot USPSA and IDPA. I've shot WWB value pack 165gr .40's in my CZ but not having a chrno, I'm wondering if they can be expected to make major all the time, i.e. regardless of the weather?I'm leaning towards one of the 9mm, since then I'd have a backup gun to take to matches. What say the experts? Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty whiteboy Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 http://www.winchester.com/products/catalog...;bn=4&use=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Almost all factory 9 will make minor, the problem is with the 40. Some do but by a wide margin. That is why so many of us reload. I don't want a 40 making 187pf. Talk with Danny at Atlantic ammo, He has a 147JHP 9mm that Dave Savigny uses that is great. He also makes 40 major reloads that Phil Strader uses. I have used both and they were great. Could that be Danny at Atlanta Arms & Ammo? <<<CLICK<<< That 147 gn. load is sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I shot factory ammo out of my G34 for the longest time. Once I started reloading, I was amazed at the reduction in recoil. For S's and G's I still fire off a few factory round here and there. It sounds like two different guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palcapt Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 9mm WWB is about $5.00 a box cheaper than 40 at Wal-Mart go with g34 and wwb from walmart . cheaper and you would not have to worry about making major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 WWB 165's make Major in a Glock. But, 9mm is a heck of a lot cheaper to shoot if you aren't going to reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Casper Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 (edited) Here's recent data for my Glock 35 (factory barrel) tested at the chrono during the 2006 Area 4 Championship. CCI Blazer FMJ 180gr. 3 shot average = 1026 PF 184.7 CCI Blazer Brass FMJ 180gr. 3 shot average = 998 PF 179.6 WWB 180gr. FMJ 3 shot average = 980 PF 176.4 Ronnie Edited December 14, 2006 by Ronnie Casper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwat Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Dedinitely check with Atlanta Arms. Danny has a sweet 40 load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattoo Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Amazingly I just happen to shoot and chrono some WWB 165 in my G22 today. It made major so your G35 would make it even easier. Twenty rounds averaged 1027 with ES= 58 and SD= 15 Then I shot some of my minor .40 reloads and it was like shootin a .22 HTH, T Amazingly I just happen to shoot and chrono some WWB 165 in my G22 today.It made major so your G35 would make it even easier. Twenty rounds averaged 1027 with ES= 58 and SD= 15 Then I shot some of my minor .40 reloads and it was like shootin a .22 HTH, T OOPPS, Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBO Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Anybody have a price list for Atlanta Arms? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFD Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 165 WWB easily makes major out of my G35. 179 PF out of the factory barrel and 183 PF out of the KKM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNE8 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Call Danny at ATL Arms and Ammo 770 464 2203 I use AAA 180 gr minor .40, VERY soft in a 35. On the chrono, 142PF at the Florida open in the morning when it was cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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