open17 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Just got a line on a 625-8 5". It's got all the goodies with it, except no holster/belt. Belt's I've got, although this might be a good time to pick up another CR speed--I like dedicated belts, all set up for the different divisions. Holster---total newbie here when it comes to competition wheelgun holsters. I'm running Blade-tech DOH, CR Speed, and an old model Aluminator for my bottom feeders. What should I get for the round gun? 1. If price were no object---what's the BEST? I know, opinions will differ. 2. What's relatively inexpensive, but a great holster for the money? 3. Whatchagot? Anybody have a holster, RH, for USPSA competition, that they want to sell? Maybe you upgraded to the latest and greatest? That .1 slower draw isn't going to make any difference to me for a LONG time---the 4 second reloads are going to be much more of a problem. Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargenv Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I currently have a Safariland 002 Cup holster and am debating switching over to a CR speed Revolver holster as they seem faster. I've modified my 002 a bit, removing some of the material to aid in speed of the draw, best draw I have so far is 1.14 secs, but there is a considerable amount of drag taking it out of the 002. It seems that the CR speed is faster, but I can't tell for sure since I've never tried it yet. I know a local shooter has a device that modifies the 002 holster to be more open and then when it needs to be locked down, it locks the gun down pretty good. I need to bug him some more about that device.. John are you out there? Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I like the CR Speed Holster and used it for a few years. I found it much faster than my old Ernie Hill Fast Track. This year I switched to a Speed Sec holster and I really like it. Advantage of the Speed Sec... I have a 5 inch 625 and a 6 inch 627. I can use the same holster for both. I can even through my other Smiths into the same holster with no problems. Hogue makes a great holster for revolvers too but you have to have an addition made to it so that the mussle locks in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 My first competition revolver holster was a brown 002. I still have it and use it for a back-up holster, it's usually in the trunk of my car just in case. I switched to a CR Speed early last year, and once I got it adjusted properly, it's been just fine. Sam has a CR Speed also (generously given to him by Airedale), and he likes it a lot--says he no longer worries about the gun falling out on the ground. (That never actually happened, he just worried about it.) I picked up a kydex 5" N-frame holster at a gun show for $15 (I have no idea who made it) that I use on the rare occasions when I'm shooting a revolver in Production, and it works surprisingly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 +1 to the CR-Speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Fay Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 +2 for Cr Speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I've used the 4" 002 for 4 years, now with I'm using the same holster with a 5" gun. I've modified it to add a post at the bottom and took off the strap. It's speed is as fast as any thing I've ever tried. But, without the post it needs to be cranked down a bit tighter and that will slow down the draw. Get the CR, the lock on it looks very comforting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 (edited) Get the CR, the lock on it looks very comforting. True, although you have to make sure you keep the phillips-head tension screw on the lock in proper adjustment. I let mine get a little too loose, and walking from one stage to the next at the Summer Blast, my shooting bag bumped the gun, and PLOP--my 625 fell right into the Pennsylvania mud. I called the RO over and we got it handled, but I had to really work to keep my composure, as this occurred immediately after I had screwed up the first stage by mistakenly shooting the same target from two different ports, leaving another target unscathed and unengaged. This single brain malfunction would turn out to cost me the match. On the bright side, in dropping my gun I discovered my latest million-dollar product idea: "Sight Brown." Edited October 23, 2006 by Carmoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltermitty Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 On the bright side, in dropping my gun I discovered my latest million-dollar product idea: "Sight Brown." ROTFL! As in "He don't know sight brown from shinola"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haras Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 +3 for Cr Speed I'm searching for another used one if someone wants to sell. If you don't want to invest that much, go with Blade-Tech ($60 + shipping). You will have to order it from the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Get the CR, the lock on it looks very comforting. True, although you have to make sure you keep the phillips-head tension screw on the lock in proper adjustment. I let mine get a little too loose, and walking from one stage to the next at the Summer Blast, my shooting bag bumped the gun, and PLOP--my 625 fell right into the Pennsylvania mud. I called the RO over and we got it handled, but I had to really work to keep my composure, as this occurred immediately after I had screwed up the first stage by mistakenly shooting the same target from two different ports, leaving another target unscathed and unengaged. This single brain malfunction would turn out to cost me the match. On the bright side, in dropping my gun I discovered my latest million-dollar product idea: "Sight Brown." What no loc-tite left after delivering the kittens that week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I'm using a Safariland 002 with my 686 6", and it holds securely and releases OK, but requires a firm grip. I remember seeing a modification that acted like a lock/release for this holster. I recall it was like a cam sleeve on the bolt where the cylinder is held. By rotating a latch attached to that bolt, the sleeve would rotate from closed position to a point where there was additional separation, which loosened up the holster's hold on the cylinder. At the time I saw this [maybe 3 years ago], I was just getting started and didn't appreciate the value this might have. Anyone know of or remember about this modification to that holster? Sargnv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I took a piece of aluminum bracket and the nose piece from an old Ernie Hill rig and bolted them together to the 002 and viola! It holds the revolver great with minimum tension on the cylinder. My draws with the modified 002 are just as fast as with a Safariland 007, or 012, and my 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTR Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I’ve been using a Safariland 002 cup Challenge for a while now and really like it. I did just pick up an Ernie hill holster thought and that seems to be nice too. As a matter of fact, I kinda like the hill for it more vertical attitude (not as much rake as the 002). Does Safariland still make the 002 in brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 JTR nice pix, been practicing! I don't think Safariland makes any brown holsters for anything. Course most holsters now are Kydex or Plastic or Aluminumumumum! Looks like you're a Lefty. Are you using the 6" holster or order from the factory and get a 5"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Does Safariland still make the 002 in brown? Unfortunately no, all black now, and I think even basketweave is gone And I'd like to add a plug for the Extreme/SpeedSec holster, holds all my revo's no matter what the barrel length and has a lock too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimini Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I started off with the Safariland 12. It worked ok, but then I saw my friends with the CR Speed and liked it a lot better. So I bought two, one for revolver, and one for limited. Then came the open gun. Limcat stealth solved the need for two holster set-ups. Now I shoot either the open or limited from the same holster. You do have to make sure you lock it but once locked, the gun is secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Jimini, I've never seen you shoot a revo. Come on, bring it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoonie Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 +1 on the Extreme that 10mmDave mentioned. I like mine a lot, lift it about a quarter of an inch and it's released and ready to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Universal Shooting Academy stock # 944-100-008 (Brownells), holster can be converted right or left handed, adjustable cant, rake and vertical. I have a CR Speed and to compare the two I would have to say the USA is faster and has more adjustments to custom it to your draw. Just my 2 cents worth. If I attached the site right it should take you to Brownells page. http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/pro...?p=15481&s= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 How's the SpeedSec's retention while unlocked? I only see the same stock photos of this holster and the marketing efforts at retailer's website don't really tell me much. Could anyone post pictures of the SpeedSec from various angles? How does the mechanism compare to the Ghostholster? I don't care for the CR Speed holster, the lock and retension mechanism feel very inconsistent to me. The whole thing feels cheaply made to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 How's the SpeedSec's retention while unlocked? I only see the same stock photos of this holster and the marketing efforts at retailer's website don't really tell me much. Could anyone post pictures of the SpeedSec from various angles? How does the mechanism compare to the Ghostholster? I don't care for the CR Speed holster, the lock and retension mechanism feel very inconsistent to me. The whole thing feels cheaply made to me. The retention of the Speed Sec is complete, once locked the gun stays. I don't have a dig camera so I can't show you the lock. I will say the lock can be a pain to reach if you don't practice drawing from a locked holster, not hard to release just not as easy as a Limcat. (and maybe not as easy to bump off accidentally either ) The lock is located on the inside of the unit close to your belt, I did modify my holster to move my lock to the outside for a match that I was under the impression my holster would have to be locked for, turned out it didn't have to be but what I did was turn my holster into a left hand/right hand holster. (they don't offer a lefty version) And just so all is revealed...I did have to lock-tite the screw for the lock lever, seemed it would work it's way out and the lock arm would get loose letting it fall down/un-lock, a year later and it's been fine ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepickles Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 The retention of the Speed Sec is complete, once locked the gun stays. I don't have a dig camera so I can't show you the lock. I'm curious about how secure the gun is while it's in the holster but unlocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Universal Shooting Academy stock # 944-100-008 (Brownells), holster can be converted right or left handed, adjustable cant, rake and vertical. I have a CR Speed and to compare the two I would have to say the USA is faster and has more adjustments to custom it to your draw. Just my 2 cents worth. If I attached the site right it should take you to Brownells page.http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/pro...?p=15481&s= It says 6" guns, is that ...up to 6"... or only 6"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10mmdave Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 The retention of the Speed Sec is complete, once locked the gun stays. I don't have a dig camera so I can't show you the lock. I'm curious about how secure the gun is while it's in the holster but unlocked. It's great......as long as you don't go running around with it ! ! The speed sec holds the gun quite well just standing around, say for Steel Challenge or any type of "stand and shoot" type of stage, works fine for USPSA once you step into the box and LAMR, just don't sit in a chair with it unlocked. You can rock the gun around and it stay's put, but lift it up a little bit and it's free. Unlocked you would need to be careful just like any other type of "speed" holster, sitting down, doing a walk thru, etc. etc. As far as "needing" a speed type holster, I'm not so sure, in USPSA with hands at side's, gun in a draw, laying on a table, is that .25 or even .1 of a second really worth it ?? I've only shot IPSC this past year, so I'm not so sure you need a Speed Sec/CR Speed, have a friend that's using a Blade tec in Limited class and he's doing just fine. I like it because I can put any barrel length/caliber S&W revo in it that I have, no muzzle platform to move and no tension to adjust going from an N frame to an L frame. And for full disclosure, I do have one 627 super that's kinda giving issues, I think the width of the trigger guard is thicker, so 1 out of 10 or 12 ain't so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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