BigDave Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 (edited) I still suck, but I am improving. Albeit sloooooooowly...30.68 Sec's100 pts3.2595 hfCalling your shots here, is SOOOOOOOO important.Had one Mike, but with all that hard cover, its not surprising. Still not acceptable though, the mike, that is.http://www.uspsa.org/classifiers/cm99-37.pdf Edited September 9, 2013 by sperman Fixed Broken Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Big Dave: This is a pretty tough classifier...tougher than it looks. I shot it with a limited pistol a couple of months ago and I thought I did really well, but the per cent came back at a little over 59. I had great reloads, but the slow draw and horrible weak hand string just killed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede20 Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 18.19 was my time with 99 points. I had a miss on the hard cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZ Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Ok..I'm beginning to think the numbers on this classifier are flawed. I shot this classifier over the weekend and am trying to move from a high C to B in Limited 10. I did it in 27.15 sec @ 95 points and no misses (HF = 3.5). Previous to my run, two local GM in Limited ran the same at 20.32 @ 100pts (HF = 4.92) and 24.55 @ 100 pts (HF = 4.07). So I'm figuring "Hey, these guys are GM's in Limited...I'm a C in Limited 10...I'm pretty close so I'll probably have the 55 pts I needed to make B in Limited 10. Get home and run the numbers....now unless my calculation of the HHF for CM99-37 is wrong, I came up with 8.00 in Limited 10 which means my run was at 43% and the GM's were at 61% and 50% To make matters more intersting, I looked around the USPSA Top 20 for shooters who've shot this before...the best I could find was 72% for a GM in Limited. I would guess the HHF for Limited and Limited 10 are about the same on this one. Now if you reverse engineer this stage an 8.00 HF and 105 pts makes 13.1sec.. figure 1.5 sec for a draw and 3 mag reloads at 1s/per (which is probably a bit fast) which gives 8.6 seconds to fire 21 rounds into some pretty tight targets. I'd like to see the guy who did that! Is this one of those "can't win" classifiers or one that everone but me stacks the rounds on and hopes no one notices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 >8.6 seconds to fire 21 .41 splits, plenty of time for a GM. Maybe not for that 15 yard target. I was looking at it, figuring a 1.5 draw, .5 splits/indexes, and 1.5 reloads, which comes to 11 seconds. So a 13 seems very doable. Classifiers are sometimes very humbling. I personally have a Limited 53% on this one from a couple years ago, right before I got an M card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZ Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Quote: from Erik Warren on 12:30 pm on April 23, 2002 >8.6 seconds to fire 21 .41 splits, plenty of time for a GM. Maybe not for that 15 yard target. I was looking at it, figuring a 1.5 draw, .5 splits/indexes, and 1.5 reloads, which comes to 11 seconds. So a 13 seems very doable. Classifiers are sometimes very humbling. I personally have a Limited 53% on this one from a couple years ago, right before I got an M card. Well unless I'm missing something in your math... draw 1.5 seconds 21 rounds at .5s/splits = 10.5 3 reloads @ 1.5s = 4.5 total = 16.5sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionshooter Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 How did you get the 8.0 hit factor? I recently shot this one and haven't been able to find anything on it. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZ Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Quote: from actionshooter on 5:00 pm on April 23, 2002 How did you get the 8.0 hit factor? I recently shot this one and haven't been able to find anything on it. Steve To get the hit factor for any stage.... 1) go to google.com and enter cm99-xx (where xx is the classifier number. 2) go to one of the links that has "match results" for that classifier 3) Note the shooters USPSA number and their hitfactor for that stage. 4) go to the USPSA website and put that shooters USPSA number in and look up their percentage for that classifier.... I'll let you complete the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Steven, because you did the math with 25 shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionshooter Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 Thanks for the info,BUT I wish I wouldn't have seen that one, (bad really bad) OUCH!!! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philadelphia Gunman Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 Steve, thanks for posting how to get the high power factors. I couldn't figure out how you could get them. I just sat here for an hour looking up the 8 classifiers that I shoot in the last 3 weeks tring to figure out what class I will be in. Unfortuntly I can't find any production scores so I did the math based on limited class (I shoot production). My average is 33.3% of the top limited scores. Do you think in production this will make me a C shooter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZ Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 One thing I should have added regarding my "method" is to check a few shooters to verify you've calculated the correct hit factor. Sometimes, a shooter will reshoot the classifier and only THAT run will show up on the USPSA website (note, the USPSA changed things recently and now list ALL runs for a classifier). If you don't check at least 2 shooters, its possible you can end up with the wrong HHF for a stage. Philadelphia Gunman -- C class in any division ranges between 40% and 60% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Shot this classifier this weekend for the first time ever. Shot it with a Glock 34, production division. All those reloads with production gear was wild. Anyway: 20.24 seconds 95 points 4.6937 HF Went left to right on all the runs. Draw and reloads were OK. I did fire two extra rounds on the far left target because I called one shot a D and wasn't sure at all about the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 This one looks kinda funky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Dave, we just shot this one at South Central. I was actually the high limited shooter (all C and D's, one with a 97 in 31.23 HF 2.7858 one mike on T1, a makeup on T2, and two shots at one of the poppers. 3QT was 2 seconds faster but two mikes and lower hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted December 14, 2002 Share Posted December 14, 2002 Big Fat 0%. My first Classifier and the First Match with my new Blaster. My gun fell out of my holster Thursday and landed on the rear sight. I did not get to sight it in before the match. To hit the poppers I had to aim completely off the steel to get a hit. 7 Mikes. Luckly I got it close by the last stage, 35 yard classic targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 This has to be the stupidest classifier ever! It was my best one of the day at 19.22 seconds, 87 points. I stacked these suckers - anybody else tried it that way? This one should end up at 53% - dismal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBChaffin Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 For those that are interested, a thread about stacking on this particular classifier: Stacking on CM 99-37 Steel One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 (edited) Thanks, DB, I didn't know about that thread. I moved the controversial posts from this thread into that one. Anybody else wishing to read about stacking or procedure on this one, please read the thread mentioned above. Let's keep this thread about hit factors and techniques. Edited July 1, 2003 by Erik Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Just got back from shooting this one. Calling the shot is SO important here. Production - 97 points in 20.76...Should come in around 86%. L10 - 99 points in 23.xx....Should come in around 76%. Limited - 90 points in 19.xx...Should come in around 83%. Threw a mike on the first target in the limited run...uncalled. That mike was the difference between 83% and 97%!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law Dawg Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 Shot this today.Felt really slow. Open. 23.15sec. 101pts. 4.362hf. Can anyone tell me what this is nationally? Thanks, LD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 52.55% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
338lapua Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 ok I shot this last Sat and I shot limited 20.97 with 99pts hf 4.721 any one know what that comes out to?? Jake?? Tanks 338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Looks to be aorund 82%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkgsmith Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 17.41 with 100 pts. Any ideas on % for limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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