EricW Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 What bulk and/or surplus 223 have you bought lately that will actually shoot? And where did you get it, if I may be sold bold as to ask? I *was* buying Remmy 223 LE ammo for $180/K that shot 1.5 - 2 MOA. Well...now...my shotgun patterns tighter at 100 than that ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Eric, I know people that are shooting this: http://www.outdoormarksman.com/product_inf...oducts_id=16079 Seems to shoot well for them (JP 18" 1/8).. not the hottest stuff.. 2800fps or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 1, 2006 Author Share Posted April 1, 2006 Eric, I know people that are shooting this:http://www.outdoormarksman.com/product_inf...oducts_id=16079 Seems to shoot well for them (JP 18" 1/8).. not the hottest stuff.. 2800fps or so? Thanks Dave, They'll be in town tomorrow. At that price, I'll probably drop the dime and give 'er a whirl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Eric...a buddy started shooting the Ultramax .223, says it is working well for him. The 55 grain fmj is about $210 plus shipping, the 55 grain BT is about $17 per 50. These prices are from Jerry's Sport Center (you need a dealer friend to order it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Try some 62gr Wolf. The new polymer stuff is pretty good. It seems that some guns like it more then others, but my 16" shoots about 2MOA and it makes 160pf. For the range I shoot it at, thats about perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbullgpd Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 +1 on the MiWall. I have been shootin that stuff in hangun and rifle with good results, yet to have a bad round. I don't have the luxury of a reloader yet so until I do I am gonna be shootin MiWall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Georgia Arms sells re-man .223 that is loaded (supposedly, I don't really care, but I'm told) to XM193 spec. I shot a mag worth at 50 and it was putting one round on top of the other out of my 20" Clark at 50 yds and I wasn't even trying to shoot a group. A group at our local CC did a bulk buy and got for $150/K. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Georgia Arms sells re-man .223 that is loaded (supposedly, I don't really care, but I'm told) to XM193 spec. I shot a mag worth at 50 and it was putting one round on top of the other out of my 20" Clark at 50 yds and I wasn't even trying to shoot a group. A group at our local CC did a bulk buy and got for $150/K. YMMV I shoot the GA Arms stuff sometimes. It's nowhere near as hot as XM193. Decent accuracy and good price, though. I barely made Minor with it at the 2004 A6 3 Gun with a 16" barrel. I've had a couple of rounds with no primers - so visually inspect the rounds in matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Georgia Arms sells re-man .223 that is loaded (supposedly, I don't really care, but I'm told) to XM193 spec. I shot a mag worth at 50 and it was putting one round on top of the other out of my 20" Clark at 50 yds and I wasn't even trying to shoot a group. A group at our local CC did a bulk buy and got for $150/K. YMMV Hey Dave- Is that the Canned Heat stuff that they advertise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBoyd Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 don't forget your local wal-mart. they sell winchester 55 grain white box usa ammo in a 40 pack for 7.73 a box, that's 19 cents a round, right down the street. no shipping, handling, etc. it's not surplue or bulk, but still reasonable, if you're just looking for something to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Georgia Arms sells re-man .223 that is loaded (supposedly, I don't really care, but I'm told) to XM193 spec. I shot a mag worth at 50 and it was putting one round on top of the other out of my 20" Clark at 50 yds and I wasn't even trying to shoot a group. A group at our local CC did a bulk buy and got for $150/K. YMMV Hey Dave- Is that the Canned Heat stuff that they advertise? I believe it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdmoore Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Last case I got was black hills blue box. Got it from Midway on sale it was ~230. But the WWB shoots about as good out of my rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Is Federal XM193 worth buying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qstick Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hi Eric - I have found XM193 to be decent - but not great. For 100 yards and closer - the ammo is more than accurate enough for the 3 gun game. Past 100 yards, groups opened up considerably. I have been shooting the XM193 on the closer "hoser" style stages and using a few mags of 55g ballistic tip that hit to the same poi for the longer shots. Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Thanks Zach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunny Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 XM193 is all I use for match ammo. Sub MOA. I've shot 3/4" groups at 200yds. Vastily superior to WWB. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I'm with Gunny on this. XM193 is all I've used for the last 2 years, not the bulk stuff but the stuff in the 20 round box. It,s won quite a few matches for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 Well, based on that, I might just drop the dime and give 'er a whirl. 223 ammo's getting to be like hen's teeth these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Is Federal XM193 worth buying? YES! It's what we use exclusively. Most places are out of stock right now. I just a bought a full case from Mirage http://www.miragetechnologies.net/ delivered, for $251.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Eric, what did you end up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 Eric, what did you end up with? An urge to buy a DPMS 308. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgtsvi Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Academy sports has a new line of ammo made by Monarch in Serbia. The .223 was $2.86 per box of 20 and it had a steel case. The brass case ammo was $1.00 more. I tried a couple of boxes and it all worked reliably in my rifle. It was not as accurate as the WWB ammo but it will be sufficient for practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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