Randall Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I am currently shooting a 9mm major in open gun in USPSA. I have not had any trouble with the gun and was wondering if anyone else out there is shooting 9mm major also ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 hi randall, welcome to the forums. yes, there are lots of 9mm major shooters here. do a search for more info. lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Here's one: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26984 Welcome to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I drive a Bedell in 9 major. Just don't ask me about loads for it. I can't type that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Precision Designs Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I am currently shooting a 9mm major in open gun in USPSA. I have not had any trouble with the gun and was wondering if anyone else out there is shooting 9mm major also ?? Well, hello there. It's nice to see somebody starting a thread by saying that everything is great with their 9mm Major. Very refreshing. Yes, quite a few of "us" shoot 9mm Major by "choice". Myself included. Can you tell us about the object of your admiration? Maybe even a picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spd522 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Had my Open gun rebarrelled for 9mm Major from 38 Super. There were a few bugs to work out initially but after that, it has been smooth sailing. I am having more fun shooting it as a 9mm than I ever did as a Super. Cheaper to shoot too. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 My Open gun is currently getting a 9x19 barrel installed also. Can't wait till I get it. I do not anticipate any issues. Job being done by Bedell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctgun Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I am running a 9 Major Glock 17 (The poor man's open gun) and it is a blast. Welcome to the world of high pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 I am currently shooting a 9mm major in open gun in USPSA. I have not had any trouble with the gun and was wondering if anyone else out there is shooting 9mm major also ?? Well, hello there. It's nice to see somebody starting a thread by saying that everything is great with their 9mm Major. Very refreshing. Yes, quite a few of "us" shoot 9mm Major by "choice". Myself included. Can you tell us about the object of your admiration? Maybe even a picture? The gunsmith who built my gun is Hayden Oliver. And his email address is: olivergun@peoplepc.com Feel free to write him with whatever questions you have. Here is a few of the goodies; STI frame Caspian slide Schueman hybrid barrel 5" Beddel comp 7 port Aftec Alchin mount C more most internal are Ed Brown Hayden researched the project for a month before he even picked up a file. If anyone wants a gun built, please email him and he will give you his phone number. I will have pics in a day or two. Randall I am running a 9 Major Glock 17 (The poor man's open gun) and it is a blast. Welcome to the world of high pressure. Mine is not HIGH pressure. My barrel was throated to release pressure. And the hybrid barrel has 4 hybrid ports. I use SP primers and HS7 powder and don't get ANY signs of pressure. But you have to load long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 HAHAHA, He was just talking about you shooting an open gun, not knocking you or your gun. And it still is HIGH pressure if your making major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctgun Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Randall, I am sorry if you took my coment as a dig on you or your gun it certainly was not meant that way. What I was trying to say is that any of us that are running a 9mm up to major power factors are pushing that little cartridge up to pressures that it was never designed for. That doesn't mean that it can't be done safely as a lot of us are doing it but it is still a high pressure round at major power factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVC9MAJ Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I shot about 10k rounds on my open gun 9mm bedell shorty, the gun is great but be careful with your brass, I had a case separation(twice) in the Philippine Nationals last month. I've been using mixed once fired brass ever since I started shooting 9mm w/o any problem, so I dont know what happened. anyway no damage to the gun and the pf was 168. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 The Pressure numbers keep coming up. Pull out the Specs and compare 9mm, 9mm+p and 38 super. It just might surprise a whole bunch of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Chris, Do you know where I can find the 9mm +p+ specs? Thanks Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Chris, Do you know where I can find the 9mm +p+ specs? Apparently there are no +P+ specs. SAAMI standards for 9x19 are 35,000 psi standard, 38,500 psi +P. +P+ is "generally accepted" as 15% above +P, or in this case 44,275 psi. I'm pushing a 124 at 1380 out of a Glock 17 open gun, using a pile of HS7, OAL of 1.150. Even if it is within the +P+ pressure specs, it's still a high pressure round for a handgun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 When Bam Bam, RKGsmith and I put the second proposal together to actually do away with the 1.250 OAL restriction there was no +p+ spec. I'm not even going to venture a guess at the pressure some of the glock guys are pushing I load mine long to keep pressure more reasonable. 9 major is much easier in a 2011 style gun due to the ability to load long and still work in the mags. Of course the pressure issue is there in thing except .45 acp. Some guys are blowing .40 with too fast a burn rated powder. Like anything else use common sense and if you blow your hand off well i guess YOU screwed up just don't try to blame somebody else for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBam Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 A big reason they allowed 9mm major after taking a second look, was the chrono testing we did. There was a hot factory load (law enforcement only, but STILL a factory load) that made major out of a 5-1/2" barrel. Most 9mm specs are deceiving because the load data references a 4" barrel. It was a silly old rule that made no sense to require a set 1.250" OAL. Not to say the pressures aren't high... but its every bit as safe in every way as a similarly loaded 9x21 which was always OK in open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 i thought +P+ had no pressure limits normally accepted by SAAMI...and ive also heard its 43500 psi by the lab technician at accurate arms. all that being said, i cant wait to get mine...only a few more days. isnt hs7 filthy though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipscron2000 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 i thought +P+ had no pressure limits normally accepted by SAAMI...and ive also heard its 43500 psi by the lab technician at accurate arms.all that being said, i cant wait to get mine...only a few more days. isnt hs7 filthy though? HS7 is slighly dirty, but it's not gritty. You gun will easily run all weekend without cleaning it. And even then, just wipe down real quick and re-oil with Mobil 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 power pistol seems to be a real option here, max book load out of a 4 inch barrel is only 100 fps off major. an extra half grain and inch of barrel should get us there with room to spare...(and still keep pressures under 50kpsi) http://recipes.alliantpowder.com/rg.taf?_f...D=22&powderID=8 i would hate to try HS7 and like it...then what, have to buy a 5 year supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 (edited) I am just getting into open class and I must say, it is a blast shooting a 9mm para/caspian/jpoint gun. I am shooting 147FP with 5.7 grs Alliant powder pistol at 1125 aol 1.180 man is it cool Edited January 21, 2006 by usmc1974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Ok How many people are having problems with slides cracking, or other problems with parts cracking? I am looking into building a 9mm open gun. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessej Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 No problems whatsoever with my Bedell major nine. I'm using a 8 pound Wolff recoil spring with a lightened slide, may go down to 7 pounds for steel loads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Contrary to internet rumours and myths, NO BREAKAGE here with mine.. Caspian Commander Slide, not a cut down 5" (have broken three links, but Irv, Gary and myself are of the opinion there is a gremlin that is out of spec, has nothing to do with Major 9 .) Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 the only cracking I have ever heard of is the the para slides, which I wouldnt use anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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