Duck_Duckalo Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Good luck to all those shooting at Worlds! Share some stuff if you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Wondered why there has been no responses? People are following the if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all rule... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I've read a few complaints about stage design on FB. They copied 7 of the stages for our match last weekend and I really enjoyed them. I think it's great that a local guy won the whole match. I really don't know Kevin, but I love his range and the matches put on there. The only comment I have about the match is that the number of shooters doesn't seem to equal a WORLD championship when Area 4 had more shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 It seems like it's getting a similar response as USPSA Handgun Nat's, the shots were longer then expected with vary tight shots on none threats. I imagine HQ for both had the same thoughts, "It's a championship it's not supposed to be easy" This mentality seems to lead to lots of no shoots in both games, and not really super fun stages. I wasn't there, I have no idea just stuff I've heard. Apparently they shot until almost dark for the first day's PM squad. I also know at least one person failed equipment check after shooting more than half the match and was allowed to just fix their gear and keep shooting. Some people are salty about that which I understand. But in defense of the guy, he's shot that gun in several majors it's been in every style box IDPA makes, plastic, wood and metal and has always passed and for some reason this time the safety was to tall. IDPA might want to get a more consistent box manufacturer. It should concern everyone that shoots IDPA, because even if you buy all the boxes and test your gear you might still travel across the country and fail equipment check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Long ago a IDPA official asked me to make boxes for them. I asked what their tolerances were and got a puzzled look in response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzdraw Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 From the 2015 Rulebook ver 1.1, Match Administration Handbook section. "1.2.6 Firearm Test Boxes 1.2.6.1 The IDPA firearm test box has an allowed dimensional tolerance of -0” and +1 /16” (1.6 mm.) Boxes outside this tolerance range may not be used in IDPA matches for equipment checks or for “firearm in the box” starts." Did not research how many years previous a tolerance in print was added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 It appears they added it after they talked to me because it wasn't there back when I looked. Is the added tolerance becoming mandatory as in USPSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarilynMonbro Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I keep hearing about the guy who failed equipment and kept shooting, but nobody says the name. Who was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck_Duckalo Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 8:07 AM, Racinready300ex said: It seems like it's getting a similar response as USPSA Handgun Nat's, the shots were longer then expected with vary tight shots on none threats. I imagine HQ for both had the same thoughts, "It's a championship it's not supposed to be easy" This mentality seems to lead to lots of no shoots in both games, and not really super fun stages. I wasn't there, I have no idea just stuff I've heard. Apparently they shot until almost dark for the first day's PM squad. I also know at least one person failed equipment check after shooting more than half the match and was allowed to just fix their gear and keep shooting. Some people are salty about that which I understand. But in defense of the guy, he's shot that gun in several majors it's been in every style box IDPA makes, plastic, wood and metal and has always passed and for some reason this time the safety was to tall. IDPA might want to get a more consistent box manufacturer. It should concern everyone that shoots IDPA, because even if you buy all the boxes and test your gear you might still travel across the country and fail equipment check. This explains some of the "courtesy check" posts I have been seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck_Duckalo Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Buzzdraw said: From the 2015 Rulebook ver 1.1, Match Administration Handbook section. "1.2.6 Firearm Test Boxes 1.2.6.1 The IDPA firearm test box has an allowed dimensional tolerance of -0” and +1 /16” (1.6 mm.) Boxes outside this tolerance range may not be used in IDPA matches for equipment checks or for “firearm in the box” starts." Did not research how many years previous a tolerance in print was added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck_Duckalo Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 5:34 AM, RangerTrace said: I've read a few complaints about stage design on FB. They copied 7 of the stages for our match last weekend and I really enjoyed them. I think it's great that a local guy won the whole match. I really don't know Kevin, but I love his range and the matches put on there. The only comment I have about the match is that the number of shooters doesn't seem to equal a WORLD championship when Area 4 had more shooters. When I looked at the number of shooters I thought it was rather low. I wonder why that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, MarilynMonbro said: I keep hearing about the guy who failed equipment and kept shooting, but nobody says the name. Who was it? I'm not giving any names. I don't think that's important anyway, people just want that so they can have someone to be mad at. I've heard he wasn't the only one. And it's worth considering this is someone who probably gets north of 20 points a year and owns every version of a IDPA box on the market. It's odd his gun failed this time and never has before. I'm betting the box might of been a little thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Duck_Duckalo said: When I looked at the number of shooters I thought it was rather low. I wonder why that happened. I think it's pretty normal for IDPA nationals to be under 400 shooters. It's never really been a big match. I assume it's because they want everyone to go to the awards after the second day, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck_Duckalo Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said: I think it's pretty normal for IDPA nationals to be under 400 shooters. It's never really been a big match. I assume it's because they want everyone to go to the awards after the second day, That makes sense. Hopefully next year I can go. I've never been to nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Duck_Duckalo said: That makes sense. Hopefully next year I can go. I've never been to nationals. I hope to try to go next year too. Some what depends where it's located though. Last year I only had 6 points which put me on the waitlist. I ended up just backing out this year, to much going on anyway. Unfortunately I've already missed out on 4 points from a couple matches I registered for but couldn't make which kind of sucks. Going to be tough getting enough points now. I currently only have 2 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachjet Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 How do you earn points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck_Duckalo Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Zachjet said: How do you earn points? Shoot Tier II matches and up. You earn points based on the number of matches you shoot. But there is always a wait list if you did not earn enough points (shoot enough larger matches). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Next year shouldn't need any many points since you probably wont have anyone from other countries trying to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachjet Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Duck_Duckalo said: Shoot Tier II matches and up. You earn points based on the number of matches you shoot. But there is always a wait list if you did not earn enough points (shoot enough larger matches). Gotcha. So it’s basically based on participation. Not based on the results of certain matches. makes sense. Seems like a good system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck_Duckalo Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 14 hours ago, Zachjet said: Gotcha. So it’s basically based on participation. Not based on the results of certain matches. makes sense. Seems like a good system I think so. This way the people that shoot are first pick to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Round dumping was a pe, no fault lines, tac sequence existed, different vision barrier and no shoot rules, different concealment rule, different reloading rules... See what idpa nats was like just 10 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarilynMonbro Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 19 hours ago, Racinready300ex said: I'm not giving any names. I don't think that's important anyway, people just want that so they can have someone to be mad at. I've heard he wasn't the only one. And it's worth considering this is someone who probably gets north of 20 points a year and owns every version of a IDPA box on the market. It's odd his gun failed this time and never has before. I'm betting the box might of been a little thin. Nobody is mad at the shooter. They're mad at the MD lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, MarilynMonbro said: Nobody is mad at the shooter. They're mad at the MD lol Well, we all know the MD's name. Really we should probably be mad at IDPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck_Duckalo Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, rowdyb said: Round dumping was a pe, no fault lines, tac sequence existed, different vision barrier and no shoot rules, different concealment rule, different reloading rules... See what idpa nats was like just 10 years ago No fault lines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzdraw Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 IDPA's point system for their Nationals reward those who shoot IDPA Tier 2 and higher matches. For some, with few sanctioned matches near them, it's expensive to travel far enough to gain sufficient points. The location of any upcoming Nationals always has an impact on who can come, based on travel time, costs and gun laws at the site. IDPA's Rules have changed greatly from the genesis in 1997. Today's Rules are much nearer USPSA rules than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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