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I'm a part of that aging demographic that my eyes don't play well with pistol iron tights. Ive been shooting USPSA CO for multiple years now and have transitioned nearly all my pistols to red dots. I do drills at my local club with AR and pistol transitions, steel stages etc etc. Recently added a Mossberg 930 SPX to the play list which now has me thinking about 3-gun. After doing some research, looks like I don't get to play unless I go Open Division as my CZ S2 is CO. Been looking for most recent rules and haven't seen anything that allows red dot on pistol plus optics on AR. Most of the videos and info I'm finding date back several years but look like 3-guns is still anti CO, no optics other than on the AR. Is this till correct?

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local match to me has a tac carry optics division.  basic tac optics but allowed to have a frame-mounted dot on the handgun.  but in most matches i see, a pistol optic does put you in Open.

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This is why I was wondering. Standard CO is slide mounted optic. Based on everything I'm seeing I already have everything needed to step into 3-gun except the SRO on my S2. Long way away from open for everything. End of season here since in the warm and balmy Great North but thinking about next year and drills to work on in the mean time.

 

When I jumped to CO I was one of the first and had to spend $$$ to get a Shadow 2 customized to meet all the requirements for CO. Couple years later all the rules changed and no big deal, lots of people packing CZ S2 CO guns. Love that gun, wuold love to run it in 3-gun.

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Modified is gonna be big in the future. It's basically Open Lite. Slide mounted pistol dot, fully loaded shotgun tubes and bipods on rifles. I see you're in MN @DIYguy, the Forest Lake guys are all about Modified division. That said, if you're just getting started in 3 gun prepared to get your balls kicked in no matter how well your current guns fit into an existing division.

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Hey Tony, middle of nowhere, N central IL.  Probably been there and started a bit south of ya. Peoria.

Use to getting my butt kicked (lets protect the balls) but point is to have fun while doing it.

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Did a lot of clicking around and found the MN 3Gun Group. Found the section for Match Rules updated March 21, 2022 which included the Modified Optics Division. Good news, should fit right in. I did not see mention in those rules regarding the max dimensions for pistol. Saw another set of rules during the travels that had maximum length of 9", max height 7" (round numbers) These rules stated could have optic mounted or extended mag but not both. Based on my checking my Shadow2 CO it was close to 7-1/2" H with my TTI mag.

 

Also found two clubs around 40 miles away in Forest Lake and St Cloud that are hosting 3Gun matches. My local club does USPSA but not 3Gun.

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17 hours ago, DIYguy said:

Hey Tony, middle of nowhere, N central IL.  Probably been there and started a bit south of ya. Peoria.

Glad you escaped!

One of the best and simultaneously worst things about 3 gun is the lack of a comprehensive and universal ruleset. You're unlikely to find any rules regarding the size of the pistol and even less likely to find anyone who knows and enforces those rules even if they existed. 

So basically do what you want within the very minimal/vague rules and you'll be fine.

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We're a long way from MN and IL, but we have a rule set that has been around for a while, which allows a CO type handgun in our Stealth Division.  I mention this because of the previous question regarding box dimensions.  The dimensions and test criteria for the box can be found in the ruleset (if you are interested) that is included on our website: riomultigun.com.  We were seeking a reasonable trade-off between optics versus iron sights on the handgun, and magazine capacity.  

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Our club shoots UML rules and the optics division allows 2 optics.  If you use one on the pistol or shotgun it has to be non magnified and the rifle can be magnified.  If you run it on the pistol it must be slide mounted.  This would be the division for you if anyone around you runs by these rules.  You can go to ussleagues.com to check out the rules.

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