Gary Stevens Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 OK just reviewed the PCC rules again. The rule says a shooter may not be required to start with the PCC on the weak side. The way I read that is if the shooter decides that they want to start that way it is ok. Scenario: stage requires six shots to be fired weak side only from the start signal. Shooter holds PCC on weak side, weak hand on pistol grip, strong hand on hand guard, stock touching belt. Anyone see a rule violation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 PCC 8.2.4 A course of fire may never require a competitor to start with the carbine held on the weak side. I think it's just poor stage design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Why not just specify start with stock on belt and let the competitor solve the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 4 hours ago, wtturn said: Why not just specify start with stock on belt and let the competitor solve the problem? That seems to be what the rule implies (states) I think. Not really poor stage design, its a standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Gary is correct. I shot a standard Thursday with my JP PCC. There was a barricade with targets on the 'weak's side and strong side. I started with the gun on the weak side of the barricade and shot it weak side. Then switched to strong side for the targets on the right/strong side of the barricade. The rule is fine as it stands. The option is with the shooter. No need to micro-manage every aspect of the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, pjb45 said: Gary is correct. I shot a standard Thursday with my JP PCC. There was a barricade with targets on the 'weak's side and strong side. I started with the gun on the weak side of the barricade and shot it weak side. Then switched to strong side for the targets on the right/strong side of the barricade. The rule is fine as it stands. The option is with the shooter. No need to micro-manage every aspect of the sport. Somewhat refreshing approach, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 No rule violation. Rule states a stage cannot require a PCC shooter start with PCC in weak hand, however, shooter may decide to. Just cannot be a requirement. No stage design violation. Stage can require weak hand shooting. Implication would be for PCC to start in strong hand, as any holstered pistol shooter. However, PCC shooter can decide to start in the weak hand. Its all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKorn Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I agree with everyone else- no rule violation unless the start position said something different, such as: ”Strong hand on grip, weak hand on handguard. Stock touching belt. Muzzle pointed in any safe direction.” versus: ”Stock touching belt, muzzle pointed in any safe direction” as as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 12 hours ago, DKorn said: I agree with everyone else- no rule violation unless the start position said something different, such as: ”Strong hand on grip, weak hand on handguard. Stock touching belt. Muzzle pointed in any safe direction.” versus: ”Stock touching belt, muzzle pointed in any safe direction” as as an example. ^^^ What he said. It only seems contingent on the start position as written in the WSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Scott Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 No to which question? ...on their strong side or ...can they...? They question has two parts which does he answer apply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, pjb45 said: No to which question? ...on their strong side or ...can they...? They question has two parts which does he answer apply? Just what I thought went I read the reply. Clear as mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I believe he's answering the first part of the question. As in, "If the WSB doesn't specify, no, the shooter does not have to start with the gun on their strong side." His answer doesn't make any sense when applied to the second half, as the WSB is not allowed to specify starting on the weak side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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