MrRick Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Like the title says. Just got a Stock III and looking to do a few things. Looking for grips and to lighten the trigger pull and if possible shorten the reset. Also what front sight? Is the Stock III a large frame? Would this be the correct magazine? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 All your questions are answered already. Memphis Mechanic just posted a bunch with pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Grips: I'm in love with Henning's grips. Expensive and just a pinch thin, but absolutely beautiful and as grippy as the checkering on the frame. Mine got a full polishing job and $300 worth of springs and action parts from Patriot Defense. BOLO disconnector, Titan hammer, Xtreme 1-piece sear and extended firing pin block. Beautiful trigger now. Your gun is large frame. CDNN has factory mags in stock for $15 which work perfectly. I posted a thread about that recently. Search on my name in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 2 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said: Grips: I'm in love with Henning's grips. Expensive and just a pinch thin, but absolutely beautiful and as grippy as the checkering on the frame. Mine got a full polishing job and $300 worth of springs and action parts from Patriot Defense. BOLO disconnector, Titan hammer, Xtreme 1-piece sear and extended firing pin block. Beautiful trigger now. Your gun is large frame. CDNN has factory mags in stock for $15 which work perfectly. I posted a thread about that recently. Search on my name in this forum. Been following your thread and already have a laundry list of parts. Just not sure on which grips fit (stock II are the same?). I also have to take mine apart because I think mine might have some work done. Trigger doesn't feel nearly as bad as you describe it. Very similar to my CZ97 with just a 13# hammer spring. The reset seem shorter than I expected but I still see the 2 piece sear. Also not sure what height to get for the front FO sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) I went with a .140 tall front and like it. Any lower and you see the slide in the sight picture when the front post is a pinch above centered in the notch, and I wound up ten clicks or so down from the factory setting. Keeps the fragile rear sight nice and low. I went with an 8# recoil spring and had an annoying number of failures to chamber fully with ammo that had been chamber-checked (plunked and spun) in the barrel round-by-round. I'm on the stock spring minus 3 coils now until a 10# spring is ordered. (Reaming barrel might also magically help this, but both will have to happen at once.) Trigger wasn't that bad from factory and reset is damn short if you're coming from plastic. Might be Stock. Mine pulled 10.5 on a scale and felt like 8 to me. The previous owner might have dropped in trigger or sear or hammer springs and done some polishing. That goes a long way on its own. So does properly adjusting the overtravel screw in the trigger, at least on reset (I'm running my gun with it removed now and find it's plenty short enough.) Stock II grips fit. The only dimensional differences in a II and a III are found in the front half of the slide. (Slide, barrel, guide rod, and recoil spring.) Edited November 28, 2016 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) I shot a DVC open. I got this for my son and for me to use in multi-gun. I don't find the trigger bad at all. When I go to the range tomorrow I'll see if the gunsmith is there to see at what poundage the trigger is. For your .140 are you at dot on target or 6 low? What loads you running? Edited November 28, 2016 by MrRick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomore606 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Get yourself a bolo, delta hammer, xtreme sear from patriot defense. Best upgrades ever, makes the single action feel like a 1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Titan. Not a Delta. That's the old dinosaur hotness. Titan is the new hotness. I sight my guns in to hit even with the top of the blade at 25yd. If you wanted to hit behind the fiber you have plenty of adjustment leftwith which to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 Load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 135gr bullet at 135pf (1,000fps) I'll be curious to know how much adjustment might be needed for the 150gr semi-wadcutters I'll be using in about two weeks time. Pushing them with Prima-V should make for a very clean, very soft round. If they're accurate enough and they feed reliably! Edited November 28, 2016 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 About the same as mine. So will go with the 10# recoil spring also. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) So I got to shoot it today for the first time. AMAZING!!! I think the trigger is perfect the way it is. It is at 8/4# but the break is CRISP and predictable. Lots of feed back...something I was missing from my other DA/SA guns. Definitely need an FO sight and maybe grips for aesthetics. Also definitely need to change the recoil spring. It is abbot over sprung. Edited November 29, 2016 by MrRick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) They really do shoot beautifully. I love my Stock III. Glad you like yours just as much! Once I'm used to the trigger and operation is once again totally subconscious, I believe the only thing I'll miss about my plastic framed striker guns is the ease with with you can change mags. Edited November 29, 2016 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) On 11/27/2016 at 6:13 PM, MemphisMechanic said: So does properly adjusting the overtravel screw in the trigger, at least on reset (I'm running my gun with it removed now and find it's plenty short enough.) Edited March 8, 2017 by NWfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) What is the proper adjustment of the overtravel screw? My stock 2 is all factory except PD springs/FP and came with a good 1/8" of overtravel. I don't want to push the limits but a little less would be nice. Sorry for the separate quote/question posts. On a new phone and not sure what happened there. Edited March 8, 2017 by NWfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Run it in and test over and over, until the hammer won't quite drop in double action or single action. I forget which one goes away first... so check both. Congratulations. You've just found "too far." Now back it off juuuuuuust until normal function returns. That's where most people leave it, and this will eventually cause problems. So back it off another half turn, perhaps even a bit more. And keep it there with loctite blue. Asjusting it too tightly can result in issues when the gun gets hot or dirty, and will cause big headaches if there's some wear in the action parts later on Edited March 8, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billthemarine2862 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I know everyone recommends the Henning and EGD grips but, I have a set of the copper gun grips and I really like them. They are very grippy, they basically feel like medium grit sand paper. Not too rough. Best of all they are about 40 bucks shipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 "Rumor has it" PD will have grips to tempt your wallet. with palm swells to lock in tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, johnbu said: "Rumor has it" PD will have grips to tempt your wallet. with palm swells to lock in tight. Rumor has it I just saw spy shots. And I seem to think some John guy from up North sent them to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Only to chirp your interest. can't have you forgetting about the newest new hotness ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 On 3/7/2017 at 11:48 PM, NWfront said: What is the proper adjustment of the overtravel screw? My stock 2 is all factory except PD springs/FP and came with a good 1/8" of overtravel. I don't want to push the limits but a little less would be nice. Sorry for the separate quote/question posts. On a new phone and not sure what happened there. Tighten the overt ravel screw until the gun will not drop the hammer in SA. Then back out until it will. Then back out further until the hammer does not contact the sear as you slowly lower it with the trigger pulled. You can back it out a bit further if you want for extra peace of mind, but this is the optimum point. You will have some overtravel when finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 9 hours ago, billthemarine2862 said: I know everyone recommends the Henning and EGD grips but, I have a set of the copper gun grips and I really like them. They are very grippy, they basically feel like medium grit sand paper. Not too rough. Best of all they are about 40 bucks shipped. I am certainly interested to check out the PD grips when released. I do want to ask though, The Copper Gun Grips, there site only shows full length grips for the match frame. Do they offer slightly shorter ones for use with the Elite frames? (Stock II, III, Lim Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymer Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 32 minutes ago, EngineerEli said: I am certainly interested to check out the PD grips when released. I do want to ask though, The Copper Gun Grips, there site only shows full length grips for the match frame. Do they offer slightly shorter ones for use with the Elite frames? (Stock II, III, Lim Pro) Call them. There was a mix up with my grips, not everything is listed online, he had some prototypes during my purchase. He'll get you taken care of over the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billthemarine2862 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) I got the ones on his website that are for the match. I fit them to my S3. I used my Stock grips as template. In hindsight wish I would have called him first but it was a fun project. Edited March 11, 2017 by billthemarine2862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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