MissionaryMike Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Hey, gang. I was wondering if anyone has first-hand experience using Precision Bullets in combination with your Stock ll, or any other Tanfo w/ polygonal rifling. There's a warning on Precision Bullets' FAQ section with using their bullets in barrels with this style of rifling. I'm not sure why their coating would be any different than the bullets that I have been using, BBI, so if anyone has inside I would surely appreciate it. Thanks. Btw, I'm looking at their 147gr FP. -MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I used 170s ( to try out- 500 rounds) in my stock 2 shooting minor. No problems with leading s far as I can recall but there was more smoke compared to BBIs ( using titegroup which precision bullet and BBIs do not recommend). . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Precision is the lone holdout who isn't using a hitek/polymer or powdercoating. As far as I know it's still an old fashioned Moly coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionaryMike Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 1 minute ago, MemphisMechanic said: Precision is the lone holdout who isn't using a hitek/polymer or powdercoating. As far as I know it's still an old fashioned Moly coating. I see. Well, I'm extremely interested in this brand because they use a different manufacturing process other than casting. They stamp the bullets before and after the coating is baked on, which supposedly leads to more consistent manufacturing results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I used about 6k of their bullets for 40sw. A little smoky with hot powders, but the company provided great service and the bullets were good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Great, great projectiles. Accurate to as far as you can hit anything. Very smokey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Yes. Accurate and much smokier than other coated bullets is an honest opinion. Take a few mags worth of FMJs with you to a major match (in case you have to shoot with the sun behind your targets) and they work just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionaryMike Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 14 hours ago, johnbu said: I used about 6k of their bullets for 40sw. A little smoky with hot powders, but the company provided great service and the bullets were good. Would N320 or Ramshot Competition be considered hot? The Hi-tek coated bullets don't seem to smoky. I guess the lubricant really makes the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) No - "hot" in this case refers to temperature of burn, not speed as in a fast powder. Dual base powders (Titegroup) are murder with moly coated precision bullets when it comes to smoke. Think "black powder musket." N320, WST, and the like are cleaner. FWIW I found very little improvement between Titegroup and RS Comp behind a coated bullet when it came to smoke. Other powders like Solo1000 and WST were noticeably better. However... it is hard to find anything that burns cleaner than N320. I'd recommend it for your major match ammo if you intend to shoot precision bullets there. Use the other powders for practice and locals where the sun won't be downrange while you're shooting. Edited November 16, 2016 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionaryMike Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: No - "hot" in this case refers to temperature of burn, not speed as in a fast powder. Dual base powders (Titegroup) are murder with moly coated precision bullets when it comes to smoke. Think "black powder musket." N320, WST, and the like are cleaner. FWIW I found very little improvement between Titegroup and RS Comp behind a coated bullet when it came to smoke. Other powders like Solo1000 and WST were noticeably better. However... it is hard to find anything that burns cleaner than N320. I'd recommend it for your major match ammo if you intend to shoot precision bullets there. Use the other powders for practice and locals where the sun won't be downrange while you're shooting. Probably b/c RSC is also a double-base powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 From precision website: recommended powders Any powders for cast lead bullets will work for Precision Bullets. Vihtavuori – N-320/N-340 Ramshot – Competition/Zip Winchester – WST Alliant – American Select/Power Pistol Hodgdon – Universal Clays/HP38 NOT recommended Hodgdon – Titegroup Vihtavuori – N-310 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Also, I found the moly fouling almost as hard to get out of the barrel as lead. They are good bullets but nearly all of the hitek coated brands are cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionaryMike Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, Sarge said: From precision website: recommended powders Any powders for cast lead bullets will work for Precision Bullets. Vihtavuori – N-320/N-340 Ramshot – Competition/Zip Winchester – WST Alliant – American Select/Power Pistol Hodgdon – Universal Clays/HP38 NOT recommended Hodgdon – Titegroup Vihtavuori – N-310 Thanks, Sarge. I missed this part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Been using Bbis with the hitek coating and titegroup with good results and very little smoke. Edited November 18, 2016 by bulm540 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionaryMike Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 So by all these replies, I can assume that running coated lead bullets in a polygonal rifling barrel, such as the one that comes in the Stock ll, is good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robport Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I had problems with their 9mm 147's tumbling out of a polygonal barrel (PPQ), but the 124's and 115's are fine. I use their 170's in .40 SW all the time and have never had a problem except too much smoke on night stages (yes, I use titegroup). I still shoot them because of the price. Their prices include shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Slug the barrels first. Some are tighter than standard. That will add to lead deposition in the bore. It also adds to the cleaning requirements after a match. Some people don't surgically clean their gun after each match. I am not one of those people, My gun gets broke down every time I shoot it. I have been called OCD about my guns by every person that knows me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billthemarine2862 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/16/2016 at 3:23 PM, MissionaryMike said: So by all these replies, I can assume that running coated lead bullets in a polygonal rifling barrel, such as the one that comes in the Stock ll, is good to go. I had read this same thing in regards to poly rifling. I am very new to handloading though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billthemarine2862 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, ryridesmotox said: Slug the barrels first. Some are tighter than standard. That will add to lead deposition in the bore. It also adds to the cleaning requirements after a match. Some people don't surgically clean their gun after each match. I am not one of those people, My gun gets broke down every time I shoot it. I have been called OCD about my guns by every person that knows me I break my guns down completely every time I shoot (match or range session) as well. I don't think it is OCD but, my wife says it is, she is always right. I find myself shooting the Tanfo more often than my CZ because I can get the sear cage back in so much faster. Edited November 18, 2016 by billthemarine2862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/16/2016 at 3:23 PM, MissionaryMike said: So by all these replies, I can assume that running coated lead bullets in a polygonal rifling barrel, such as the one that comes in the Stock ll, is good to go. Yes, good to go. especially minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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