ShortBus Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I currently shoot a stock 2 in production with all the goodies. I really want to try open with a tanfo but building another gun is costly. Could I drill/thread a few holes in my dustcover to mount and optic while shooting open? While shooting production the ONLY thing changed would be the holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wav3rhythm Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Would not be allowed for production as it would be an external modification to the firearm. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 That's what I figured. Was hoping it might be ok because they would provide no competitive edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ShortBus said: That's what I figured. Was hoping it might be ok because they would provide no competitive edge The last special condition in Appendix D4 — UNLESS a modification is SPECIFICALLY authorized in the rules or SPECIFICALLY authorized in an official, published NROI interpretation, it is considered a PROHIBITED MODIFICATION. Edited October 23, 2016 by ChuckS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 hmm so maybe there's hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just now, ShortBus said: hmm so maybe there's hope? You can sent an email to Troy and he would have to publish a ruling/interpretation on the USPSA website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 I just emailed him. Im hoping he can make a ruling as small threaded holes in the dust over off nothing other than mounting an optic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Contact NROI, get an email with a ruling. SS has pretty much the same wording and Amidon ruled holes drilled for scope mount in my 1911, back when the 8 shot 45 acp w/comps were the rage!, were OK. They weren't drilled for competitive advantage and gave no advantage as holes in a slide would. So it's worth a try and there may be a chance. You might even do a little research and quote the original ruling, it was posted at one point, to back up your point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 An email with an opinion from DNROI is not binding on an RM. An interpretation published on the website however, is a horse of a different color...... (And for the record, I would subject a DNROI opinion email to strict scrutiny of applicability to the situation at hand, and if applicable would give it fairly heavy weight in making a determination -- so an email wouldn't be worthless) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 15 hours ago, Nik Habicht said: An email with an opinion from DNROI is not binding on an RM. An interpretation published on the website however, is a horse of a different color...... (And for the record, I would subject a DNROI opinion email to strict scrutiny of applicability to the situation at hand, and if applicable would give it fairly heavy weight in making a determination -- so an email wouldn't be worthless) how binding are those rulings posted on the website, when DNROI ignores his own rulings at Nationals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 11/7/2016 at 6:21 AM, bret said: how binding are those rulings posted on the website, when DNROI ignores his own rulings at Nationals? How do you know he did? (In other words how do you know that the ruling questioned applied to situation at hand?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Nik Habicht said: How do you know he did? (In other words how do you know that the ruling questioned applied to situation at hand?) because I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 So, you were there, you heard all of the same facts that DNROI did, were privy to all conversations, and are educated to the RMI level with ~ 20 years experience officiating in this sport at all levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Nik Habicht said: So, you were there, you heard all of the same facts that DNROI did, were privy to all conversations, and are educated to the RMI level with ~ 20 years experience officiating in this sport at all levels? yes, I was there yes I know what happened. I don't have 20 years experience officiating but know when the rule is ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 2 hours ago, bret said: yes, I was there yes I know what happened. I don't have 20 years experience officiating but know when the rule is ignored. Where is the like button when you need it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 11 hours ago, Nik Habicht said: So, you were there, you heard all of the same facts that DNROI did, were privy to all conversations, and are educated to the RMI level with ~ 20 years experience officiating in this sport at all levels? actually since I was an R.O. on the stage, I knew more about the facts than DNROI did, he only heard part of it. he chose to not only ignore the rule, and the facts, but gave a reshoot also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 Never got a reply from Troy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.45 ACP nut Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I think I must have missed something. How do you get a reshoot for having holes drilled in your dust cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Two different topics, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Bought a 2011 open gun. A lot easier than what I had planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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