kontra Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Hi, every now and then I unintenionally release the mag of my CZ 75 SP-01. Especially when I go hard and usually only during live fire. Good thing about that is, that it prevents me during matches to overpace...but it still sucks. ;-) Anybody here with the same problem? What is your solutution? Is there a smaller Mag Release available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Can you reproduce it during dryfire? I would guess you have a bit of an inconsistent grip. If your hands aren't always in the same place it sets the stage for things like this to happen. I'd recommend you place your hands perfectly on the gun and have a second person draw lines connecting them so you can check to see how consistent your grip is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKnoch Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Video of it would be helpful. If you're not already, get video. I would think Jake is correct, if it's not happening in dryfire. A smaller mag release would possibly help, but i much prefer extended mag releases. I shoot sigs mostly though Daniel K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoops! Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) It's not easy to accidentally release the mag of an SP-01 with a factory weight mag catch spring. Follow the advice above and work on getting a consistent grip. If you have absolutely monster hands and there's just no way around it, you may file down the mag release so it doesn't stick out as far (just make sure you don't go too far and can't release the magazine intentionally or go all the way through parts of the metal). After filing, I would recommend sanding and one of the appropriate bluing solutions so it doesn't stand out that you modified it. There are other ways to make it more difficult, but they aren't nearly as varied as a 2011 with a fat mag release button screwed on and a competition mag release spring. Edited July 28, 2016 by Whoops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Depends on when it happens. I recently had a series of mag release surprises with my CZ75 Shadow custom. Some folks thought I was pushing it with my grip sometimes. I shot a steel match and it happened much more often than in a USPSA match. What the hell! Finally figured it out. I am using a Comptac holster. The part of the holster that sits over the mag release was pushing the release when I holstered at a certain angle (when the muzzle was pointed more back than other times). The mag was partially released but stayed in the gun. The first shot was ok but after that the mag was loose enough to cause a failure to feed. Ground off the offending part of the holster and problem disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Had the same issue on a CZ 75 LS, replaced the release spring with a new one and that fixed the problem, while I was at it I did the tweak that prevents you from pushing the mag release too far and causing a mag to stick (slight inward bend on 1 leg of the release spring). 100% success so far. The original spring was noticeably weak compared to my other cz 75 before I replaced it. Have also seen holsters that allow you to bump an extended mag release as noted above. If you grind a mag release I think that may put you in a bad spot with USPSA Production and IDPA SSP rules. This would worry me if I went to higher level matches where guns are inspected. You can just install a standard length cz 75 mag release though (I have one that was never installed, if you want it at 75% what I payed , pm me). At the NRA annual this year I watched Max Michell's draw and reload demonstration. He said that says he uses standard length mag releases because he would rather tilt the gun slightly more to hit the release than to accidentally drop a mag at the wrong time. I think that everybody gets a less than perfect grip now and then, even the professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontra Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Can you reproduce it during dryfire? It happened once or twice during dry fire. Usually it only occurs when Iam realy tensed. But I can´t reproduce it intentionally. If you grind a mag release I think that may put you in a bad spot with USPSA Production and IDPA SSP rules. This would worry me if I went to higher level matches where guns are inspected. You can just install a standard length cz 75 mag release though (I have one that was never installed, if you want it at 75% what I payed , pm me). At the NRA annual this year I watched Max Michell's draw and reload demonstration. He said that says he uses standard length mag releases because he would rather tilt the gun slightly more to hit the release than to accidentally drop a mag at the wrong time. Does the original mag release fit in the shadow frame? If so, I replace the shadow extended mag release. Unfortunately Iam living in germany...so thank you for your offer...but I don´t think, that it will be a good deal for both of us. :-D I have very short fingers - but I also don´t see the need of a extended mag release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Can you reproduce it during dryfire? It happened once or twice during dry fire. Usually it only occurs when Iam realy tensed. But I can´t reproduce it intentionally. If you grind a mag release I think that may put you in a bad spot with USPSA Production and IDPA SSP rules. This would worry me if I went to higher level matches where guns are inspected. You can just install a standard length cz 75 mag release though (I have one that was never installed, if you want it at 75% what I payed , pm me). At the NRA annual this year I watched Max Michell's draw and reload demonstration. He said that says he uses standard length mag releases because he would rather tilt the gun slightly more to hit the release than to accidentally drop a mag at the wrong time. Does the original mag release fit in the shadow frame? If so, I replace the shadow extended mag release. Unfortunately Iam living in germany...so thank you for your offer...but I don´t think, that it will be a good deal for both of us. :-D I have very short fingers - but I also don´t see the need of a extended mag release. "Does the original mag release fit in the shadow frame?" I think the answer is yes, but, I don't have a shadow in front of me. Somebody here will know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointerman1967 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Can you reproduce it during dryfire? It happened once or twice during dry fire. Usually it only occurs when Iam realy tensed. But I can´t reproduce it intentionally. If you grind a mag release I think that may put you in a bad spot with USPSA Production and IDPA SSP rules. This would worry me if I went to higher level matches where guns are inspected. You can just install a standard length cz 75 mag release though (I have one that was never installed, if you want it at 75% what I payed , pm me). At the NRA annual this year I watched Max Michell's draw and reload demonstration. He said that says he uses standard length mag releases because he would rather tilt the gun slightly more to hit the release than to accidentally drop a mag at the wrong time. Does the original mag release fit in the shadow frame? If so, I replace the shadow extended mag release. Unfortunately Iam living in germany...so thank you for your offer...but I don´t think, that it will be a good deal for both of us. :-D I have very short fingers - but I also don´t see the need of a extended mag release. Are you shooting in Production? If so, remember that rules state that you can change then length of the mag release, but you can't alter the profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koideath Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I had the holster problem and filing it down solved my issue. I have fat hands and there is no way around it on my cz sp01 shadow, I would always hit the mag release. I bought a standard length mag release and thousands of rounds later I haven't had a single issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alucardus Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 If it only happens during live fire I would think it has to do with your grip slipping. You could try something like progrip or a grip tape to lock your hands in better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontra Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 Thanks guys for your help! Finally I switched over to a standart length mag release and the problems are gone. No I can go hard on the Shadow. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Was at a match sunday and a guy with a new to him gun found out the prior owner lightened the mag release force....a lot. He was activating it on the draw and the mag would hit the ground as the gun settled on target. We were amused...him, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highhope Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Glad to hear that your problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontra Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 ...and just won my first IPSC Level III this weekend. It is a total different style of shooting when you don't habe to worry about accidently dropping a mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DASR4 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Glad you got it worked out, congrats on the win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lior Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Glad somebody else raised this subject. I'm a lefty and shoot a CZ75 TS. So far so good! But when I started shooting a CzechMate with its greater undercut behind the trigger guard (like the TS Orange series), I started to drop magazines in live fire because the magazine release is close to the third digit of my strong hand. Had the same problem with the Shadow from time to time. Filing off about 1 mm worth of mag release remedied this for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now