Eliboudreaux Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) New to reloading,just bought my dillon xl650 for .40sw, and also bought Lee .40sw Deluxe Carbide 4 Die Set, and also just to make sure i bought seperate a Lee Udie Carbide (sizer/decapper), which Die im i gonna use? the standard one or the Udie? need infos, thanks in advance. STI 2011 .40 Edited February 4, 2016 by Eliboudreaux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erttactics Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 For my STI the undersize die is the only way to go. I have very few cases that fail the gauge now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliboudreaux Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 For my STI the undersize die is the only way to go. I have very few cases that fail the gauge now. thanks for the input.. will setup the dies tomorrow after all stuffs are installed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickthevick Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I use Dillon everything, except the Udie and Redding comp seat die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKT1106 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I have used a Lee die set since I started reloading. Lee sizer, bullet seater and crimp die. No problems in my STI Edge 40. Used all kinds of range pick ups, even Glocked brass. Properly set up dies make a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asr1 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Same for me I been using lee dies in 40s&w before I got my XL650 and as now been using them in my XL650 for awhile with no issue at all. If I recall on lee sizing die I had to use the locking ring on the under side of the die plate to get it setup to we're it needed. I load for my STI and Glock. By the way I use all range mixed head stamp brass. Go for it and good choice on the XL650 the best money I ever spent on reloading press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I use Redding grx die on single stage first than run them on 650. Since using grx die every case passes guage and the press runs smoother with the cases being run through that grx die first. Don't mind the extra step since my fails on the guage have went to zero. I use Dillon sizer, Lee bullet seater and Lee factory crimp. Sti 40 edge custom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I shoot .357 Sig. EGW don't make a UDie die this so run everything through a GrX die and then through the Dillon die. Like Dirtchevy said, press runs better and no failures. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbrew Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I use Dillon dies and haven't had a problem. I load and shoot about 35,000 rounds through my 2011 and have never had a single issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 U die all the way no matter what you shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterlingSomeone Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 The U die will work well for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 U-die (EGW actually) here....they work well. Really helps with mixed brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 40 S@W is where the U die shines. Either a U die or a Lee Standard sizing die is in station one on every caliber I load. Seen several S-I pistols that wouldn't run start running by just changing the sizing die. Recheck the U die after others are set, use a small strip of paper as a go no go gauge, should pull out with slight effort with pressure on the operating handle. You will need to place the lock nut on the bottom of the tool head prefer a Dillon nut and a good wrench or socket. The carbide ring is closer to the mouth of the die and if it hits the shell plate it can crack the carbide ring. Because you just sized the brass tighter you need to check the powder funnel. A piece of sized brass should slip over the funnel. I turned the funnel down in a drill press using sandpaper the polished both the outside and inside of the funnel. Stops powder bridging above the funnel. Lee's seating die, if your shooting one bullet type for a few bucks send the bullet to Lee and they will cut an insert for that bullets that matches it's design, I had a flat insert made because I shoot varied bullet shapes and it pushes on the nose of the bullet keeping OAL tight. You can mark the knob on top with a sharpie to go from one bullet to another. Prefer Dillon's crimp die, measure the bullet seated in the case subtract two to four thousands and that where crimp should be set. Loading long for S-I guns, 1.220 and have never had a feeding issue. I'm 70, been shooting this combination a long time. Push through dies are a great idea but not needed in 40 S@W, the slide won't batter the case as bad as 45acp. The U die will work with one pass through the press. Be sure and lube cases makes the whole process easier on the brass, press and the operator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echd Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Whoops, double post... Edited February 19, 2016 by Echd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echd Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 A cheaper way to fashion your own seating plug is by removing the seater, placing a dollop of jbweld in the cavity, and molding it to fit with a bullet. I used this method to make proper top punches for a lube sizer but it also works with odd or unusual bullet designs for seating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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