brianr34 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I have a Glock Gen4 34 that I shoot in SSP. Next year I would like to shoot it in ESP. I want to do a stipple job on the G34 to improve my grip and do a trigger gard undercut for a more comfortable grip. My only concern is if I do the stipple job and IDPA decides to cancel ESP, I would have a Glock that I could not shoot IDPA with. How confident should I be that the ESP division will continue for the next several years? The other reason I may not stipple is I was considering trying USPSA Production. I assume stippling would prevent that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 You would need ESP to be able to answer this question. Honestly there is no way to know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 ESP will stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racknrider Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I think if ESP goes away it would take IDPA with it. You're pretty safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianr34 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Ok. Thanks for the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racknrider Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 If you're going to try Production you should read those rules thoroughly. I think there are more constraints than SSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARD72977 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I'm sure ESP will stick around. The Glock is a SSP gun. You will lose the advantages of the Glock by moving to ESP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianr34 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Curious on what you mean by the G34 will lose advantage by moving to ESP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARD72977 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 The Glock is very easy to reload thanks to the plastic gun and plastic mag. The CZ , S&W, XDM etc not so much. If you use a mag well then the advantage is lost. The trigger will never be as good as 1911 or CZ. I want to use my talents and equipment to the best advantage. Its just my opinion but the Glock is best in SSP. In the end it is always the Indian and not the bow and arrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianr34 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggMike Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 The Glock is very easy to reload thanks to the plastic gun and plastic mag. The CZ , S&W, XDM etc not so much. If you use a mag well then the advantage is lost. The trigger will never be as good as 1911 or CZ. I want to use my talents and equipment to the best advantage. Its just my opinion but the Glock is best in SSP. In the end it is always the Indian and not the bow and arrow. A Dawson Ice magwell on a Glock make reloads easier. I know a lot of people who shot Glocks in Limited and you should see their reloads. Look at Shane Coley's videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W686 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 When I first started shooting IDPA I used my Glock 34 for both SSP and ESP. I was able to make Expert in both divisions in my second year of shooting. I did not change nothing on my Glock 34 when I moved to ESP. Keep you Glock 34 as is and have a great time shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Is this ok with this mag well for esp I shoot this gun for just about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racknrider Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Will it fit the box with those extended mags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Will it fit the box with those extended mags? Probably not but i have other factory mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V2plus25 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just make sure it makes weight. I put the regular ones on mine and it makes weight (with my G35). The heavy brass one might knock it over the 43oz limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racknrider Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just make sure it makes weight. I put the regular ones on mine and it makes weight (with my G35). The heavy brass one might knock it over the 43oz limit. Brass magwells are not allowed in IDPA 8.1.7.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) brian, stippling is allowed for USPSA Production, but no under cutting of the frame. 21.4 Grips • For semi-automatic Production guns, grip tape, grip sleeves, checkering, stippling or other texture may only be applied in the areas shown in appendix E4. Glue and grit is considered the same as stippling. E4 Checkering, stippling, and/or tape may only be applied to the areas illustrated by the dashed line boundaries which include the frontstrap and backstrap. Grip Tape cannot be applied to any part of the slide, trigger, trigger guard, or any lever or button. Grip Tape or Grip Sleeves cannot disengage a grip safety. 22.2 Any addition or removal of material which changes the factory profile or adds function such as beaver tail or thumb rest. Edited March 15, 2016 by 9x45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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