Mark2274 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 For the past 15 years or so I have been reloading using Clays for my 45 ACP Government model 1911s. Have been quite satisfied using 4.3 grains with Billy Bullets 200 grain coated SWC and Bear Creek 200 grain coated RNHB. For Bear Creek 230 grain RN pleased with 4.0 grains; OAL for all 1.250 inches plus/minus. Have found Bayou Bullets 200 and 230 grain RN to be more consistent in length than Bear Creek and may be switching to them Almost out of Clays and have VihtaVuori N320, Hodgdon HP-38 and Tightgroup on hand. Does anyone have a favorite loads using what powder I have on hand? Or can you suggest any other powder for 200 and 230 grain loads. Any assistance will be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Clay Dot or E3 are supposed to be very similar to Clays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfalcon00 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Why not stice with clays? Should be easy enough to find on the net especially. I have been seeing it in my lgs for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleTK Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 4.0 Grain N-30 and X-treme 230 Round Nose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeactionjackson Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Why not stice with clays? Should be easy enough to find on the net especially. I have been seeing it in my lgs for awhile. Not sure where you're finding Clays in stock, but I haven't seen it for a few years, either on line or locally. As mentioned, Clay Dot is supposed to be very similar. ~g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rod Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 ~5.3gr of HP38/231 is a pretty popular load if all else fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfalcon00 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Why not stice with clays? Should be easy enough to find on the net especially. I have been seeing it in my lgs for awhile. Not sure where you're finding Clays in stock, but I haven't seen it for a few years, either on line or locally. As mentioned, Clay Dot is supposed to be very similar. ~g I thought clay dot was the rebranded clays. Am I wrong on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDA Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Red Dot is not a bad way to go and seems fairly easy to find. My local Bass Pro keeps it in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Red Dot is my second choice, Clays first choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark2274 Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Can't find Clays anywhere. That is why I asked for recommended loads using the powder I have on hand or powder I can obtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfalcon00 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Yeah red dot is my go to for 45acp. I know alot of guys like bullseye too never tried it though. Seems I can always find red dot and see no reason to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Clays by Hodgdon from Australia - Clay Dot by Alliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty99 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Tite-Group 4.5gr with 200gr Bayou Bullet at 1.255" OAL works great for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I've been happy with WW SuperHandicap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark2274 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thanks Swifty99. That is exactly the information I am looking for. I take it you like Tightgroup better than HP-38 or N320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty99 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I have never tried the other two. My son and I have both been using Tite-Group for a long time. It's always worked well for us and we have never seen a reason to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike l m Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 HP38/231 with bayou bullets 225 gr fp green coated with 4.8-5 grains. Using Clays right now but am almost out of it. Using 4.0 grains of Clays. Good luck in finding Clays right now. IMHO Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rev1911 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I chrono'd two loads yesterday that turned out to be nearly identical. This was out of a 5" 1911: RMR 230gr RN, N320 5.0gr, 1.230 OAL Shots: 10 Max : 808 Min : 779 ES : 29 Avg : 795 SD : 10 RMR 230gr RN, W231 5.25gr, 1.230 OAL Shots: 10 Max : 820 Min : 786 ES : 34 Avg : 797 SD : 10 I preferred the recoil impulse of the N320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakobi Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I'm using 5gr of Titegroup under a Bear Creek 200gr HBRN. Prior to that I was using 5.1gr of Bullseye (same bullet) and 5.9gr Titegroup under a Berry's 185gr HBRN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2648 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I load 4.8gr N320. 230 Berrys. Very soft. Never fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 One of my favorites; 10 rounds @ 25yds, bench rest: Springfield RO 1911 SNS 200gr NLG Coated 5.0gr N320 1.250 OAL Very soft shooter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASE772 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Have found Ramshot Competition to be my favorite over Clays, e3, N310, Titegroup, WST, 231, and Bullseye. RS seems kind of like WST on steroids. 4.1 of RS under a SNS 230 (no lube ring) at 1.250 gives me 175PF out of my Trojan. Very clean and economical powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockCanMan Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 4.7gr N320 with Bayou 230gr...just makes power factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I just got started so I am still loading Titegroup straight from the starting recommendation out of the Lyman manual. Bayou 200gr LSWC, 4.8gr Titegroup, OAL 1.244" (Lyman's says 1.235" but that seems too short). I have only shot 200 rounds of it, out of the Springfield Mil Spec, RO and TRP. All good so far. Chrono shows an average of 850 fps so this load is near the low end of major power factor. I can just notice a slightly softer recoil versus the factory 230gr S&B FMJ-RN I've been using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickFL Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I've had good luck with Ramshot Competition when I couldn't find Clays, but now I can get Clays and I can't get RS Competition so easily. I like them both for a soft, accurate 40 or 45 load. The local Bass Pro has Clays in stock now but way overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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