vactor Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) since shooting ranges are hard to get to in the City of Our President, i do a LOT of dry firing. i find that i am squeezing the grip quite hard in order to not have the sights move when i press the trigger, and more so when i do it quickly. i find that after even a short 10 minute session, my strong side elbow on the inside is kinda sore and is sore for a day or more. anyone else have this happen? i'm reasonably athletic so it comes as a bit of a surprise that simply squeezing hard can be so painful lol. but, my sights move less and less with each session ... Edited September 12, 2015 by vactor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 https://www.absolutept.com/shooters-elbow/ Also, lookup Therabar / Tyler Twist. Elbow pain from dry fire is essentially tennis elbow and can go from a pain in the butt to taking 6 weeks off shooting like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vactor Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 i already am training with a COC S and T, but my spaghetti girlie hands can barely break a pencil lead ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZinZA Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Been there. After about six to eight months the pain went away. I guess the muscles get stronger if you keep up the training Sent by Jedi mind control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vactor Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 went to the range today, had no issues, i think in dry fire, since i can concentrate and isolate so much more than on the range, i squeeze even harder, bbut even so, i shot very well, and again, dry fire pays dividends that are really fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitchinCamaro Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 This doesn't work for everyone, but try isolating your pistol by slightly torquing your elbows up. If it works for you it may help you steady your sights using your skeletal architecture instead of musculature alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha1000 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Not sure how old you are, but I became very prone to golfer/tennis elbow/ tendonosis when I hit my mid 30's. Some times you get used to it and the pain goes away, other times dropping the activity for a while is the only answer. After several years of dealing with this, I've started to become aware of when it's starting to happen and take that opportunity to take a day or two off from whatever activity was causing it.. that usually gets me back up and running until the next time. Edited September 25, 2015 by tha1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robport Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Durn, thought I was the only one...lol I've been laying off dryfire for quite a bit because of that. At least now I have some options without quitting for a quile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I know I've hurt mine this winter/spring with dryfire, but mostly by doing rifle and shotgun pickups one handed. I'm working with weights and a therabar, and most days I'm ok, some days I have some pain. Tight grip is what hurts me most, not moving not bending my arm, just gripping hard. The various elbow straps work really well to alleviate the pain mid match, or if you have something you need to do, but they don't heal you. Still useful to have around, I keep on in my range bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty whiteboy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) You have to also work the opposing muscles, use a rubber band Edited September 26, 2015 by dirty whiteboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vactor Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 been doing my COC exercises etc, but gripping the heck out of the gun takes it's tool, but i think i'm getting better. dry fire ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vactor Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Not sure how old you are, but I became very prone to golfer/tennis elbow/ tendonosis when I hit my mid 30's. Some times you get used to it and the pain goes away, other times dropping the activity for a while is the only answer. After several years of dealing with this, I've started to become aware of when it's starting to happen and take that opportunity to take a day or two off from whatever activity was causing it.. that usually gets me back up and running until the next time. i was a very good tennis player for a long time and never had any issues. i'm in pretty good shape for being 43 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfaith Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 since shooting ranges are hard to get to in the City of Our President, i do a LOT of dry firing. i find that i am squeezing the grip quite hard in order to not have the sights move when i press the trigger, and more so when i do it quickly. i find that after even a short 10 minute session, my strong side elbow on the inside is kinda sore and is sore for a day or more. anyone else have this happen? i'm reasonably athletic so it comes as a bit of a surprise that simply squeezing hard can be so painful lol. but, my sights move less and less with each session ...Yup been there too. Didn't heed the w a ring and ended up not being able to turn a door handle with that hand. Acupuncture did the trick.Sent from my SM-T900 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodfather Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Thanks for the link! Not sure if I injured my elbow outside working in the lawn or shooting but I find it hurts to shoot strong hand only or to lift anything with an outstretched arm. https://www.absolutept.com/shooters-elbow/ Also, lookup Therabar / Tyler Twist. Elbow pain from dry fire is essentially tennis elbow and can go from a pain in the butt to taking 6 weeks off shooting like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcobean Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Really glad I found this. After a hard fall onto my right arm at the Area 8 Championship in August, I started getting some serious pain in my elbow. X-ray showed nothing and working with a physical therapist has been a slow process. I'm at the point that picking up a coffee mug with palm down (fingers around rim) is difficult at best. It's SLOWLY getting better, but it's very frustrating. I'm an IT guy, so my right arm operates a mouse all day long and gets stiff as can be. Time to start weight lifting through the pain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Listen to pain.... I didn't and treated my pain as tendonitis aka tennis elbow. I treated it as such for 3 months with physio treatments and accupuncture etc.... It was a tear not tendonitis. This started 13 months ago. I had to have a PRP (blood spinning) proceedure and am still not anywhere near 100% I have dealt with job related pain all my life so this was just another "fight through it and it will go away". Big mistake. Don't listen to internet doctors and thera-flex cures on the internet (sure they might work, but then they might also do more damage) Go see a doctor, hopefully he tells you its only tendonitis and just rest. I lost 7 months of shooting/dry firing and am still very limited on what I can do. You do not want to be in my shoes Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-So-Mad Matt Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I found that working my draw really aggravated my nagging elbow injuries, but simply gripping the gun and working transitions didn't, so I've shifted my emphasis in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Time to start weight lifting through the pain.... That's a good way to turn an injury that needs a couple weeks of rest into one that needs a couple months of rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Time to start weight lifting through the pain.... That's a good way to turn an injury that needs a couple weeks of rest into one that needs a couple months of rest... Exactly, as in read my post above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcobean Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Time to start weight lifting through the pain.... That's a good way to turn an injury that needs a couple weeks of rest into one that needs a couple months of rest... When I say "weight lifting", I mean doing it like the physical therapist recommends in the videos at the link in your first post in this thread...not heavy weight lifting. I can barely "reverse wrist curl" a 3 pound dumb-bell right now. I'm determined, but I'm not crazy. Edited October 22, 2015 by kcobean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroback Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I did those exercises when my elbow started hurting -- they worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha1000 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Not sure how old you are, but I became very prone to golfer/tennis elbow/ tendonosis when I hit my mid 30's. Some times you get used to it and the pain goes away, other times dropping the activity for a while is the only answer. After several years of dealing with this, I've started to become aware of when it's starting to happen and take that opportunity to take a day or two off from whatever activity was causing it.. that usually gets me back up and running until the next time. i was a very good tennis player for a long time and never had any issues. i'm in pretty good shape for being 43 ... I've always considered myself an athlete. Still very much involved in strength/strongman type training. I've still become more prone to elbow tendonitis/tendonosis as I've aged. Started about 4 or 5 years ago. I still deadlift 500+ with a double overhand grip and no wrist wrap with no issues, still do pullups and a lot of esoteric strongman type grip training with no issues... but you put anything over 225 on the bar for a bench press and it's instant flareup. So most of my pressing is done overhead because, for whatever reason, it doesn't bother my elbows. I've dropped bench press, olympic lifts (mainly cleans) and BJJ from my life and my elbows have been much happier, and these are things, in some cases, I had been doing for 15-20+ years with no issue. Bodies age and stuff changes. Figure out what exactly is causing the issue and drop it from the rotation for a while. If it is gripping too hard with your strong hand that is causing it to flare up, work on weak hand dry fire, reloading drills, movement, etc.... give it time to settle down. Time is the only fix I have found that works. Just one man's opinion. Edited October 23, 2015 by tha1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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