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Prod/SS - Retrieve mag from front pocket after clearing a double feed


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5.2.10 says you can't have something like a magazine forward of your hip bone in Production. It doesn't specific as long as you don't use it it's ok to be there ... so

you have a magazine in a front pocket and although it's not visible it's pretty obvious you have a mag in there. You actually have no intention of using it, it's just where you carry a spare mag. Are you going to get bumped to open for this?

Not in USPSA, per this part of 5.2.4:

Should the division restrict the location of the magazines or speed loading devices, carrying them in apparel pocket(s) forward of the restriction point will be allowed providing they are not removed from the apparel pocket(s) between the “standby” command and the command “ if clear, hammer down and holster”.

Once you pull that mag to use it during the COF, you are bumped to Open.

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5.2.10 says you can't have something like a magazine forward of your hip bone in Production. It doesn't specific as long as you don't use it it's ok to be there ... so

you have a magazine in a front pocket and although it's not visible it's pretty obvious you have a mag in there. You actually have no intention of using it, it's just where you carry a spare mag. Are you going to get bumped to open for this?

Not in USPSA, per this part of 5.2.4:

Should the division restrict the location of the magazines or speed loading devices, carrying them in apparel pocket(s) forward of the restriction point will be allowed providing they are not removed from the apparel pocket(s) between the “standby” command and the command “ if clear, hammer down and holster”.

Once you pull that mag to use it during the COF, you are bumped to Open.

Yep

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Boy if someone would invent some form of cloth enclosure that could be attached to the back of a pair of pants.

Boy, if someone would actually try to stick something in that mythical enclosure when there's a row of mag carriers on the belt blocking access to it.......

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If the timer has gone beep you can stuff mags anywhere you want, that's why we can use magnets for mags on tables.

you can't use magnets in uspsa production (or SS). Not sure your analogy works.

and that's why I mention USPSA might do things differently than IPSC.

So can we clear this up once and for all? In IPSC what is being asked is totally legal as the event (stuffing the mag in the pocket and then reusing it) takes place after the start signal. But I will admit to being confused on the USPSA answer.

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