Dfer Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Just bgt a used STI Trojan in 38 Super for IPSC Classic division from one of my club's best shooters who is "Master Grade". The gun obviously suits him very well and has a lot of "go fast bits ". It has SVI hammer, sear, disconnector and spring, Techwell grip and well, mag release, Hi Viz front sight etc .but I am shooting left and, generally , high at 25 yards. In our target ISSF comp I am scoring around 350 out of 500 whereas the good shooters are up around 450 or higher. I tend to aim low right to compensate. I've only been shooting pistol for 5 months and this is my first pistol. My question is, should I adjust the sights so my point of aim is the target centre or should I focus on correcting my technique as it obviously worked very well set where it is for the previous owner? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Different eyes work in different ways, that's why they make adjustable sights. If you can shoot a tight group, move it to the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfer Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Wouldn't exactly call my shooting "tight groups " LOL but they are generally high left so will try the sight adjustment. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I often have to adjust my slights slightly when switching from one load to another. I'll test it by bracing my forearms on table (the gun shouldn't touch anything) and shoot a multitude of slow-fired groups to make sure it's the gun and not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfer Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'm only loading one load at the moment but I take your point on adjusting the sights. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsantini Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Did you have someone else shoot the pistol? Have one or two good shooters try the pistol. see if their groups are located in the same location as your groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Law Man Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) First, determine if the issue is you or the gun. Shoot it off a rest and really work on fundamentals... Try and call your shots too.. You may shoot a few high and left, but then call a shot the hit the bullseye, this would tell you a lot. Adjusting your sights is an easy, fix, its a Band-Aid. With that said, and I agree with others that any time I change a load, ammo and especially get a new gun, adjusting the sights is probably necessary, I just want to make sure I am doing my part first. Edited August 19, 2015 by Sac Law Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfer Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 What range do most folks use to set their IPSC sights? 10, 15, 25 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Law Man Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 25 yards, POA/POI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Don't worry about where it shoots for other people, just get whatever group you generally shoot centered on your POA. Then, work on producing smaller groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Shoot the pistol from a rest to see if the gun is shooting off target or if its enduced when you shoot it. If it shoots good from a rest (or when someone else tries it) but shoots off target when you shoot it, then the problem is you, not the gun or the sights. Figure out why you are shooting off target (grip, trigger control, etc) and correct the issue. adjusting the sights and continuing to shoot poorly won't help you in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeyedme Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Shoot the pistol from a rest to see if the gun is shooting off target or if its enduced when you shoot it. If it shoots good from a rest (or when someone else tries it) but shoots off target when you shoot it, then the problem is you, not the gun or the sights. Figure out why you are shooting off target (grip, trigger control, etc) and correct the issue. adjusting the sights and continuing to shoot poorly won't help you in the long run. ^^^^^^This! Edited August 20, 2015 by blueeyedme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Adjust the sights. I used to practice with Mike Henry (old school revolver ace). All his revolvers that shot point of aim at 25 yards for him, shot 8" high at that same distance for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfer Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 Thank you all. Good idea to adjust the sights and to use a rest. If I still shoot high left after doing that then I'll get some lessons to correct whatever I'm doing wrong. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 What range do most folks use to set their IPSC sights? 10, 15, 25 yards? 25 , but I never had a logical reason for it. Just ran one of the free internet ballistics calculator programs. Assuming 9mm 125 grain, 125 pf (1000 fps) and a gun with a sight height 1" above the bore, it came up with: 0 at 25 => 1" low at the muzzle & 1.2" low at 50 yards . Seems to tell me that if things are right at 25 then I will be less than 1" off for any USPSA target I run into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hmmm, looks better at 15. 0 at 15 => 1" low at the muzzle & 0.2" high at 25 yards and 0.8" low at 50 yards . Not that it is a thing for practical purposes, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjdaniel78 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I have never heard of high left being caused by a flinch, so either it is really sighted high and you are pulling left or it is really sighted both high AND left. Was the original owner left handed? Perhaps he was pulling low right and adjusted the sights to compensate. Either way, adjust them. The reason is more of a curiosity than a determining factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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