cjdaniel78

All true. My fool errand comment was aimed at myself. I spent 4-6 weeks working on draws and reloads at the exclusion of other weaknesses. I was literally chasing a tenth while I had 0.5-0.6 second weaknesses hanging in my face. The whole low hanging fruit thing. So it was only a fool errand in that I was trying to improve my match scores without addressing real weaknesses I saw at every match.

You ever read something and wish you had said it? Charlie is 100% correct, and I even have a video of me running it above! In fairness I recorded that for another thread on here where someone else asked and I haven’t tried since. I learned that trying to shave a tenth off a draw or reload when my transitions, entry’s, and exits were crap was a fools errand. In the video above I was in match mode, plain and simple. I want tangible, repeatable skills and match points; not insta-star likes.

The best reload at 7 yards I ever did when I was active* was around 1 second in October 2016. That was using a Production rig. I made this video in July 2016, draw-shot-reload-shot @ 7 yards in 2.33 seconds. 1.01 draw, 1.29 reload. * The last match I shot was October 2016. Life happened and I didn't even shoot a gun in 2017 until the week before Christmas. I am getting back into it, but I know I've lost a lot.

125 gr RN SNS 4.7 gr CFE 1.090" COAL Primers, Fed, Win or CCI. Magnum or regular seem to have no appreciable effect. I have no idea what the particulars our, but I know it makes over 125 PF out of my Limited Pro.

Congrats. Holding your baby, first, second, whichever, is the best feeling in the world.

In May 2015 he told us he used a 10lbs. I suspect he runs a 10 in his training guns but a 6 in his match guns. I know he runs a heavier trigger in his training gun.

I shoot a Lim Pro. I think this means I got gooder by proxy. Right? I wish he won with a plastic gun so the market would be flooded with used Stock 2's as people chased the new hotness.

Yes. The slide stop is coloration only. But you don't actually want the Limited safety because it is an ambi and will be too wide. You want the wide single side version from the Gold Team. I think EAA sells them. I would put a WTB post in the Tanfoglio Swap thread in the classifieds. Also, you'll get better Tanfoglio responses if you ask gear questions here: http://forums.brianenos.com/index.php?/forum/202-eaatanfoglio/

Following!

What gun are you shooting and what's the trigger like? Skills are great than gear, but a crappy trigger will amplify errors.

More ammo per session for fewer sessions. I shoot 200 once every 7-10 days. With a limit of 50 per session you are stopping too soon. You might be on the verge of a break-through. 200 rounds shot with total mental and visual focus will get you far. You need to tell yourself that looking at any shot prior to the completion of the drill is meaningless. You have to view the drill as a whole. As you are shooting, remind yourself that looking at the target only makes your score worse because you lose your "zero".

OK, this got long but I think it will help you, and please don't take it wrong or condescending. I promise you everything you are doing now, I have done. I'm just trying to save you some frustration and ammo. You can do the same thing at 5 yards. You should be able to shoot one ragged hole out to at least 7 yards once you have the fundamentals down. Here is a little story that might help. In 2013 I shot what I thought to be a lot of rounds in my carry gun (1K a year) and in typical Timmie fashion I was happy that I could get 2 inch group at 3 yards, most of the time. After I shot my first match in August 2014 I got serious and found my inner gamer. I knew first and foremost I had to be more accurate. I kept trying and trying until one day, after wasting tons of factory ammo and reading lots of advice, I figured it out. I shot one tiny, ragged hole at 3 yards. I put the gun down and mentally stepped away. I went over what I did and more importantly, what I didn't do that led to that result. I didn't look at the target. I had focused on the front sight so hard I could almost count the dust settling on it. I didn't jerk the trigger when the sights were perfect. I let the shot break when it broke and accepted the outcome. And most of all, I didn't look at the target between shots. This is a common mistake. Often people break the shot and then look over the sights to see your handiwork. It is unnecessary. At 3 yards, I promise you the bullet hit the paper. And when trying to get the fundamentals worked out, the goal isn't a perfect bullseye anyway - the goal is the smallest group possible, wherever it may be, in a repeatable fashion. If the group is 2 inches low, so be it. You can adjust the sights later. You wouldn't want to set them for 3 yards anyway. I have helped people with the same issue and you can always tell who has moved their sights to compensate for a flinch or trigger jerk because suddenly their gun starts shooting little groups to the right (for right handed shooters) of their point of aim. I feel that for anyone starting out, or trying to truly get more accurate, the procedure below is the most important thing you can do, but thankfully it is also the quickest to learn. I recommend anyone with accuracy issues to take a Dot Torture Target to the range but only use the dots as the target, ignore the "actual" drill. Using both hands (freestyle) just shoot the smallest group possible in each of the ten circles, using five shots per group. If you do this twice (100 rounds) and actually focus and concentrate on each shot, I promise you'll start to understand the mechanics and it will all click. When you are finished, end the range session. 100 rounds then go home and let it gel for a couple of days. Go back to the range and try it again. You will find it is markedly easier. At that point you can start experimenting and working on other areas because you will have mental confidence in your capabilities and you will be better able to understand why you are throwing shots. The key will be to recognize when you need to stop and reset. Full disclosure, the last time I classified was in October 2014 in IDPA. I got Sharpshooter in SSP, ESP and CDP. I haven't shot IDPA since and I now finish with the A class guys in local matches, but I have yet to get my initial USPSA classification, mainly because life has conspired to keep me from any legit USPSA matches this year. It's been outlaw only this year. But I have used the technique I just described to help more then a few people that claimed to be bad shots. It is always the same. They know they can't, until they can. Then they stand there looking at the 1/2 inch hole they just made. So why three yards? Because it is easier to get immediate results, which builds confidence. I'm not the best shooter and I don't have all of the answers, but I do know this works. Edit: Oh, and as you get better, you'll need less front sight focus as you'll better understand what you can get away with as an acceptable sight picture.

If you were at the range with me, here is what I would do. Bring the target in close. Real close, like 2 or 3 yards. Focus on one single dot, then align the sights and focus on the front sight hard. Press the trigger gently, don't try to force it. Repeat. When you are pressing the trigger, nothing but the front sight matters. When you can put six rounds into a hole similar to that shown in the #2 circle, you will have proven to yourself that you can do it and you'll have started to grasp the difference between perfect sight picture vs acceptable sight picture. There is no reason to do holster work in live fire until you get your marksmanship down. As you get better, move the target back. If you start to screw up, get back close and "reset" your self image. The absolute worst thing you can do is try to get the perfect sight picture then... YANK THE TRIGGER NOW! I know, I spent an entire summer in 2013 (pre-competition shooting) trying to figure out why my CCW started shooting low left. I couldn't believe it was me as my group size stayed the same. My trigger jerk was that consistent - and bad. Finally, moving the sights to compensate for a jerk is a band-aid that only works within a narrow range to target. (Tried that too) You need to sight in the gun, but only once you know how to press the trigger without influencing the sight alignment. As you get better at recoil control you'll be able to press the trigger quicker and quicker without affect the sights. "There's a lot to be learned at the 3 yard line" - Ben Stoeger

One is impossible. Here's my top seven. The order may change with my mood, but these songs remain in my top seven. SRV - Little Wing (Blues Rock) Lost Immigrants - Waiting on Judgement Day (TX Country) Andy Fairweather Lowe [w/Clapton] - Gin House (Blues) Indigenous - Should I Stay (Blues) Buddy Whittington - Sure Got Cold After The Rain (Blues) Dave Matthews Band - Lie In Our Graves (Jam/Alt) Dave Matthews Band - You Never Know (Jam/Alt)

Not Blues, but the Friday night Grateful Dead show is good low volume background music for an outdoor party.

I need to see Buddy Guy. I missed my chance for B.B. and Hubert Sumerlin.

89.3 KNON in D/FW does a show nightly from 6-8. There are two types of music fans. Those that love the Blues, and those that are wrong.

I ran it today in live fire. Full disclosure, I did 8 Bill Drills first so I was not cold. The average of 10 was 2.39 seconds. Here is a video of the fastest, which was a 2.33. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPyZ0-_zKNo Here is the last one I did using a slide lock reload ala' operator! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V27hKmm7-o

Rather mundane compared to some, but recent. This morning at work I pulled the coffee filter holder out of the machine while it was still brewing. Not sure what I was thinking, but it made a monumental mess of hot coffee and grinds all over the floor in the break room. Apparently my new name is Captain Coffee.

Not expecting it soon, that's for sure. And family is always first. I could have shot on Father's Day and my wife actually pushed me too, but I decided I'd rather go to my father-in-law's and get in their pool with my boys (6 and 10) before they grow up. I'm glad I did; we had a blast!

I run larger multi- shot live fire drills in Match Mode. Criss-Cross, El Prez, etc., drills that have 6+ rounds and a reload. I am not interested in burning lots of ammo on a single run of a drill in speed mode when I can get better results with short, more focused, reps. My times on these drills may not be as fast as if I rushed, but they're consitent, which helps match performance. The important thing, no matter what your time on a any drill, is that the aggregate times are dropping.

GM is my goal and I'm not there yet. If I could ever get the weather, my job, and family functions from happening on the days of USPSA sanctioned matches I could get classified. Until then, outlaw matches are better than no matches!

Jack is also spot on. For a beginner you are doing fine. Provided your holster and mag pouches are decent, you should be able to shave a solid second off your time with very little dry fire. Here is Ben Stoeger running the FAST Drill with 3 different sets of gear to give you an idea of how your holster and mag pouches can affect you. But remember, once the gun is out of the holster, skill > gear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTkjlKyPKqs

You didn't give a yardage and I have never tried the exact drill, but here are some stats. My normal for shooting doubles at 3 yards is 0.99 cold. At 7 yards I can shoot doubles in around 1.3 cold. At seven yards I can shoot a single around 1.10 cold. My seven yard reload is around 1.25 cold. If the ambient temp is really cold (below 50F - Texas boy) I can expect to see 0.10 - 0.15 increase in time. So at seven yards, I should be able to do 2.3 and 2.5 seconds in live fire, cold. That is theoretical and also based on averages and all alpha's. I am sure I could pull a 2.teens on a "record" run and probably right at 2.0 with no regard for accuracy.

Springs are wear items. Plus, I like to know mean-time-between failures.