bafsu92 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I'm looking at making the switch from my 2011's to a TS or Tanfo for limited. I don't shoot much limited and I'm so used to my Shadow's that I want something that feels more similar when I do shoot limited, weight, bore axis etc. All things being equal what do you prefer and why? Thanks for any input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asimonp79 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) I have 2 CZ TS pistols. One at 9x19, other in 40SW. The Mag of CZ with basepad from Czech and sping+follower from CZC holds 19 rounds of 40SW. The gun with this mag in is working 100% and fits with that mag in in IPSC box. Edited August 15, 2015 by asimonp79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Here's a Tanfoglio/CZ Limted gun comparison I did some time ago: I have the Limited and the TS so I can tell you each has it's advantages and it's drawbacks. TS Strengths: -sub 2# trigger out of the box -with CZC springs/followers/base pads mags hold 21 reloadable with no fuss -solid, heavy tight gun -fixed rear sight makes a great place to rack the slide TS Weaknesses: -cheesy waffle iron checkering on frame -cycles best with SAAMI length rounds with jacketed/plated bullets (most lead bullets must be loaded really short and take some work to make reliable) -cheesy plastic mag well EAA Limited Strengths: -aggressive checkering on front and rear strap -adjustable rear sight (if you like them) -dead sexy looks -drilled and tapped for thumb rest/optics -eats a variety of loads/bullets/lengths (can even use 10mm mags and load longer than 1.2") EAA Limited Weaknesses: -4#+ trigger out of the box -20 rounds with Henning pads/springs/followers (21 if tuned) -slightly less cheesy aluminum factory mag well (Henning's is much better) I go back and forth on which I like better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaultthesalt Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Can't you use your Shadow for Limited....I thought one could ? But......I have a TS that will be here on Monday ! I went 9mm but am planning on getting a 40 slide for it.....for Limited Major.Just getting away from IDPGay and moving more towards USPSA and PASS.I can run the 9mm TS in PASS ( FMP ) and USPSA Limited Minor......then switch to 40 slide later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 My TS40 handles lead bullets loaded to between 1.126" and 1.135" just fine. I've used truncated cone and swc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bafsu92 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Here's a Tanfoglio/CZ Limted gun comparison I did some time ago: I have the Limited and the TS so I can tell you each has it's advantages and it's drawbacks. TS Strengths: -sub 2# trigger out of the box -with CZC springs/followers/base pads mags hold 21 reloadable with no fuss -solid, heavy tight gun -fixed rear sight makes a great place to rack the slide TS Weaknesses: -cheesy waffle iron checkering on frame -cycles best with SAAMI length rounds with jacketed/plated bullets (most lead bullets must be loaded really short and take some work to make reliable) -cheesy plastic mag well EAA Limited Strengths: -aggressive checkering on front and rear strap -adjustable rear sight (if you like them) -dead sexy looks -drilled and tapped for thumb rest/optics -eats a variety of loads/bullets/lengths (can even use 10mm mags and load longer than 1.2") EAA Limited Weaknesses: -4#+ trigger out of the box -20 rounds with Henning pads/springs/followers (21 if tuned) -slightly less cheesy aluminum factory mag well (Henning's is much better) I go back and forth on which I like better That's pretty spot on for my feelings so far. I am basically thinking whatever I get the best deal on is the winner. Any idea what it takes to get the Tango trigger better? If it's just springs and polishing then I'm leaning that way but if I have to buy hammer, sear and trigger to get it to CZ quality then I'm leaning CZ. It seems like the only real extras the CZ needs is the mag parts and a decent mag well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bafsu92 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Can't you use your Shadow for Limited....I thought one could ? But......I have a TS that will be here on Monday ! I went 9mm but am planning on getting a 40 slide for it.....for Limited Major.Just getting away from IDPGay and moving more towards USPSA and PASS.I can run the 9mm TS in PASS ( FMP ) and USPSA Limited Minor......then switch to 40 slide later on. You probably could but I'm not really interested in limited minor and don't want to mess with adding a magwell. Plus If I bought a .40 top end I think 18-19 rds is about as good as you can do in .40 where the other 2 can do 20-21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Any idea what it takes to get the Tango trigger better? If it's just springs and polishing then I'm leaning that way but if I have to buy hammer, sear and trigger to get it to CZ quality then I'm leaning CZ. It seems like the only real extras the CZ needs is the mag parts and a decent mag well. If the trigger is a priority get the TS for sure, the best Tanfo trigger job will be close to a factory TS trigger, but a TS with a trigger job will make 2011 guys drool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Everything Kneeling said and in my experience the support for CZ in the US is far better than what I had with Tanfos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpulled Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Kneelingatlas, if you were gonna chop the dust cover on a TS how much would you take off and does anyone have a cts and standard TS that can measure the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I did chop the dust cover of my TS: I only cut it back to the serial number, an FFL 07 can file an ATF Form 3311.4 - Application for Alternate Means of Identification of Firearm(s) (Marking Variance) to legally relocate the serial number, but I didn't want to bother. The other thing which happens if you cut back further than I did you get a gap between the frame and slide. I'm thinking about doing three ball cuts in the dust cover to lighten it further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpulled Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I've got a local 07 who can do the serial # so that's a plus now just gotta figure how I want the cut to be. Thanks for he input and sorry to hijack thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Would it help if I measured the dust cover between a factory czechmate and TS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpulled Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Would it help if I measured the dust cover between a factory czechmate and TS? That would definitely help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) TS measured 5.07" from rear of slide stop pin to front of dust cover. Czechmate measures 4.07". Please ignore the strange things near the triggers. Edited August 17, 2015 by adamge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I started out with a TS 9mm and then bought a 40 slide from Stuart. The great thing is the 9mm mags work for both so there was no need to buy anymore mags. Just throw the 40 slide on and have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRanta Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 You would get more rounds into a .40 magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I get 20 + 1 so I don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 You can get 21+1 in a 40 mag, I'm surprised you get 20 in a 9mm mag, I'll have to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 The only issue I have is I have to jam the mag in because it becomes very tight in the mag well but after one shit it will slide out with no issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pivoproseem Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) The Limited feels more like an SP-01 in the hand than does a TS. The TS is wider at the beaver tail. I've also waffled back and forth between the TS and the Limited ...and an old supersighted Match I bought off the classifieds years ago as a back-up. Besides the awesome trigger, I just don't think the TS is any better than a Match. Edited August 19, 2015 by pivoproseem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGary Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Have a 40 TS that I did the grip reduction, trigger and beavertail undercut. VZ grips, front and back checkered 20lpi and cerakote. Added fo front sight, czc hammer,springs and idpa magwell. Compared with a elete limited that a very good friend shoots I would consider it going backwards if I bought a limited. Edited August 18, 2015 by GJGary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Atlas I miscounted. I got 19 in the 9mm mag. Is the 40 mag longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixty Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I think one big thing the Limited has on the TS and this might just be me but you can get an extended safety for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 You can put a huge pedal-shaped rocker safety on the TS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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